1 00:00:08,570 --> 00:00:06,289 what is up everybody 2 00:00:11,570 --> 00:00:08,580 um thanks for joining me on this 3 00:00:14,509 --> 00:00:11,580 wonderful Monday 4 00:00:16,670 --> 00:00:14,519 I hope you're doing well I'm kind of I'm 5 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:16,680 a little disheveled I've been a little 6 00:00:20,929 --> 00:00:18,720 rushed getting here but I made it 7 00:00:22,189 --> 00:00:20,939 and I'm gonna make it worthwhile this is 8 00:00:25,490 --> 00:00:22,199 going to be a great show I have some 9 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:25,500 great stuff planned so I look forward to 10 00:00:30,650 --> 00:00:28,080 sharing that stuff with you uh sharing 11 00:00:34,729 --> 00:00:30,660 any UAP news that has come up since we 12 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:34,739 last hung out and you know looking at 13 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:37,680 some old records 14 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:39,600 that are very interesting 15 00:00:44,209 --> 00:00:42,480 and maybe even a what the heck is that 16 00:00:46,910 --> 00:00:44,219 segment 17 00:00:51,950 --> 00:00:46,920 if there's time all that and more after 18 00:00:58,549 --> 00:00:55,010 reported by reputable trained observers 19 00:01:00,590 --> 00:00:58,559 the object was flying head on at us it 20 00:01:02,710 --> 00:01:00,600 was 50 times the magnitude of the 21 00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:02,720 brightest star 22 00:01:43,609 --> 00:01:30,840 [Music] 23 00:01:50,109 --> 00:01:45,890 hey what's up everybody in the chat we 24 00:01:52,330 --> 00:01:50,119 have Josh Mikey Andres Lord bass 25 00:01:55,370 --> 00:01:52,340 levadian rise 26 00:01:57,469 --> 00:01:55,380 disclosure team what's up Deanna Mr 27 00:01:59,929 --> 00:01:57,479 Robert colford 28 00:02:02,030 --> 00:01:59,939 um super crazy movie geek awesome love 29 00:02:04,490 --> 00:02:02,040 the name 30 00:02:07,609 --> 00:02:04,500 um I wonder like when you're filling out 31 00:02:09,469 --> 00:02:07,619 like it application for a job is super 32 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:09,479 crazy your first name and movie geek 33 00:02:13,490 --> 00:02:11,039 your last name 34 00:02:15,650 --> 00:02:13,500 or is crazy movie or middle name I'm not 35 00:02:17,150 --> 00:02:15,660 really sure but I like it thanks 36 00:02:20,449 --> 00:02:17,160 everybody for hanging out we're gonna 37 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:20,459 get into some stuff here 38 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:22,560 um so I hope you enjoy it I have a 39 00:02:27,589 --> 00:02:24,480 little bit of a slow internet connection 40 00:02:30,589 --> 00:02:27,599 so hopefully that doesn't 41 00:02:33,530 --> 00:02:30,599 um hurt us too much 42 00:02:34,910 --> 00:02:33,540 I can see the little Wi-Fi thing up in 43 00:02:37,250 --> 00:02:34,920 the upper right hand corner it's giving 44 00:02:39,589 --> 00:02:37,260 me the weak bars and I'm getting kind of 45 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:39,599 worried about it so we have something 46 00:02:47,630 --> 00:02:43,920 that came in uh via Twitter and it was 47 00:02:51,229 --> 00:02:47,640 it's a letter basically uh to Avril 48 00:02:53,210 --> 00:02:51,239 Haynes Director of National Intelligence 49 00:02:54,050 --> 00:02:53,220 um and we're gonna get into that a 50 00:02:59,690 --> 00:02:54,060 little bit 51 00:03:01,490 --> 00:02:59,700 so it was sent by uh Warner Rubio and 52 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:01,500 they have some worries about arrow in 53 00:03:07,130 --> 00:03:04,800 the direction that it is headed so they 54 00:03:09,050 --> 00:03:07,140 write with we write with concerns about 55 00:03:11,470 --> 00:03:09,060 the slow implementation of the fiscal 56 00:03:14,449 --> 00:03:11,480 year 23 National Defense authorization 57 00:03:16,369 --> 00:03:14,459 act guidance on the all domain anomaly 58 00:03:18,830 --> 00:03:16,379 resolution office 59 00:03:21,170 --> 00:03:18,840 uh the ndaa language strengths 60 00:03:23,149 --> 00:03:21,180 strengthens arrow and establishes it as 61 00:03:25,130 --> 00:03:23,159 the nation's Clearinghouse and analytics 62 00:03:27,649 --> 00:03:25,140 center of gravity 63 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:27,659 for UAP to inform both the intelligence 64 00:03:32,270 --> 00:03:29,519 community and U.S Department of Defense 65 00:03:35,149 --> 00:03:32,280 leaders about UAP and to avoid strategic 66 00:03:37,309 --> 00:03:35,159 intelligent surprise the language 67 00:03:39,229 --> 00:03:37,319 articulated a series of actions to be 68 00:03:40,670 --> 00:03:39,239 undertaken regarding the stand-up of the 69 00:03:42,649 --> 00:03:40,680 office and information sharing with 70 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:42,659 Congress nearly four months after the 71 00:03:49,130 --> 00:03:46,560 enactment of FY 23 ndaa we are concerned 72 00:03:51,050 --> 00:03:49,140 not to have seen more tangible evidence 73 00:03:53,149 --> 00:03:51,060 of the implementation of the ACT 74 00:03:55,009 --> 00:03:53,159 especially regarding the following 75 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:55,019 provisions 76 00:03:59,149 --> 00:03:57,180 I must say I'm not sure where this comes 77 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:59,159 from so 78 00:04:02,890 --> 00:04:01,200 um I think the signal Dan initially 79 00:04:05,449 --> 00:04:02,900 posted this on Twitter 80 00:04:07,930 --> 00:04:05,459 so it looks pretty good hopefully it's 81 00:04:10,429 --> 00:04:07,940 not uh a hoax 82 00:04:13,550 --> 00:04:10,439 there's nothing crazy in it for that to 83 00:04:17,629 --> 00:04:13,560 be the case so uh 84 00:04:19,729 --> 00:04:17,639 FY 23 ndaa requires director of Arrow to 85 00:04:21,530 --> 00:04:19,739 report directly to the principal deputy 86 00:04:23,870 --> 00:04:21,540 director National Intelligence and the 87 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:23,880 deputy secretary of defense despite 88 00:04:27,409 --> 00:04:25,680 assurances that there is a proposed plan 89 00:04:29,330 --> 00:04:27,419 to implement this change in reporting in 90 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:29,340 circulation we have yet to see any final 91 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:31,440 guidance issued we request that you 92 00:04:34,670 --> 00:04:33,120 provide us an update on the proposed 93 00:04:37,570 --> 00:04:34,680 plan including the timeline for 94 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:37,580 Assurance issuance of the final Guidance 95 00:04:43,129 --> 00:04:41,040 the FY NDA am 96 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:43,139 uh specified that the Director of 97 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:44,580 National Intelligence will appoint a 98 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:46,560 deputy director of Arrow from the IC 99 00:04:51,050 --> 00:04:48,840 however to date a deputy director has 100 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:51,060 not been identified the deputy director 101 00:04:55,010 --> 00:04:52,800 of Arrow is intended to be the vocal 102 00:04:59,150 --> 00:04:55,020 point for IC integration and to be fully 103 00:05:01,490 --> 00:04:59,160 empowered by the pddni to convene the IC 104 00:05:03,770 --> 00:05:01,500 on the UAP issue we ask that you update 105 00:05:07,490 --> 00:05:03,780 us on the timeline for appointing a 106 00:05:09,950 --> 00:05:07,500 deputy director the FY 23 ndaa 107 00:05:11,810 --> 00:05:09,960 establishes secure process for Arrow to 108 00:05:13,249 --> 00:05:11,820 interview Witnesses we are pleased with 109 00:05:15,230 --> 00:05:13,259 the number of interviews Arrow has 110 00:05:17,689 --> 00:05:15,240 conducted but has that Congress be 111 00:05:19,550 --> 00:05:17,699 regularly informed about the content of 112 00:05:23,629 --> 00:05:19,560 the interviews going forward 113 00:05:26,450 --> 00:05:23,639 FY 23 ndaa also directed Arrow to stand 114 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:26,460 up a secure public-facing website or a 115 00:05:30,290 --> 00:05:28,560 communication mechanism to outline the 116 00:05:32,570 --> 00:05:30,300 secure process for witnesses to come 117 00:05:34,490 --> 00:05:32,580 forward with relevant information to 118 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:34,500 date we have seen no efforts to 119 00:05:39,230 --> 00:05:37,199 communicate the existence of the secure 120 00:05:41,090 --> 00:05:39,240 process to the public we request that 121 00:05:43,070 --> 00:05:41,100 you provide us an update on the plan to 122 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:43,080 publicize the secure process for 123 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:45,900 witnesses to come forward finally we 124 00:05:49,969 --> 00:05:47,600 have not seen evidence of it in 125 00:05:52,010 --> 00:05:49,979 aerostrategic communication strategy 126 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:52,020 Aero established a Twitter presence in 127 00:05:58,189 --> 00:05:54,960 July 2022 but has yet to boast anything 128 00:06:00,590 --> 00:05:58,199 further despite attracting over 31 000 129 00:06:04,010 --> 00:06:00,600 followers wow that's a lot I wish I had 130 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:04,020 31 000 followers I'll tell you what 131 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:07,440 I'd be using my Twitter account even 132 00:06:14,510 --> 00:06:11,930 well probably not but still that'd be 133 00:06:16,249 --> 00:06:14,520 pretty cool this highlights the lack of 134 00:06:18,469 --> 00:06:16,259 communication and transparency with the 135 00:06:20,930 --> 00:06:18,479 public we seek to understand why Arrow 136 00:06:22,969 --> 00:06:20,940 has not made use of its social media 137 00:06:24,770 --> 00:06:22,979 presence and the future plan for 138 00:06:26,990 --> 00:06:24,780 educating the public on the mission and 139 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:27,000 findings of Arrow 140 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:29,280 to date we are cautiously optimistic 141 00:06:33,710 --> 00:06:31,199 about the limited progress being made by 142 00:06:35,930 --> 00:06:33,720 arrow and we support the considerable 143 00:06:38,210 --> 00:06:35,940 efforts of Arrow at director Sean 144 00:06:40,189 --> 00:06:38,220 kirpatrick to meet Congressional intent 145 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:40,199 thank you for your attention to these 146 00:06:46,249 --> 00:06:41,880 important matters we look forward to 147 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:46,259 your timely response so I would say 148 00:06:49,730 --> 00:06:48,000 that's pretty good that they're staying 149 00:06:52,249 --> 00:06:49,740 on top of things they're writing letters 150 00:06:55,430 --> 00:06:52,259 they're demanding action 151 00:06:57,770 --> 00:06:55,440 that's good one thing that you know I I 152 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:57,780 really you know and this is just a 153 00:07:02,210 --> 00:06:59,039 personal 154 00:07:03,050 --> 00:07:02,220 um thing I guess more than anything but 155 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:03,060 um 156 00:07:08,990 --> 00:07:05,039 and they write in here this highlights 157 00:07:13,249 --> 00:07:10,850 well finally they said 158 00:07:15,230 --> 00:07:13,259 um you know they're talking about uh 159 00:07:17,210 --> 00:07:15,240 arrow and sharing their efforts on their 160 00:07:20,390 --> 00:07:17,220 Twitter account 161 00:07:23,150 --> 00:07:20,400 and educating it the public 162 00:07:26,270 --> 00:07:23,160 on the mission and findings of Arrow 163 00:07:28,249 --> 00:07:26,280 educating the public 164 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:28,259 and the mission and findings of Arrow is 165 00:07:34,610 --> 00:07:32,240 a really poor choice of words 166 00:07:37,189 --> 00:07:34,620 especially from 167 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:37,199 you know the the UFO side of things why 168 00:07:44,450 --> 00:07:40,940 because educating the public is what the 169 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:44,460 CIA and Air Force decided to do back in 170 00:07:51,529 --> 00:07:49,440 1952 via a Robertson panel document 171 00:07:54,050 --> 00:07:51,539 that you can get on the CIA website they 172 00:07:56,689 --> 00:07:54,060 intended to educate the public so 173 00:07:58,010 --> 00:07:56,699 I don't like seeing that you know 174 00:08:02,150 --> 00:07:58,020 so 175 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:02,160 maybe you could be aware 176 00:08:06,050 --> 00:08:04,080 of the topic 177 00:08:08,930 --> 00:08:06,060 you know maybe get an advisor or 178 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:08,940 something I'm available 179 00:08:14,990 --> 00:08:12,960 you know so and 180 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,000 you know what though something I've been 181 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:17,759 thinking about with this arrow thing is 182 00:08:21,770 --> 00:08:20,160 um obviously we want uh there to be a 183 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:21,780 great government 184 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:24,960 you know group to study uaps and be 185 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:30,409 but we've just been burned so much but 186 00:08:35,570 --> 00:08:33,120 in the past it's so hard to have faith 187 00:08:38,570 --> 00:08:35,580 and and Robert in here just said It 188 00:08:40,490 --> 00:08:38,580 reminds me of the 1967 docs we both went 189 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:40,500 over yeah totally 190 00:08:45,170 --> 00:08:43,440 totally it totally does and you know 191 00:08:48,110 --> 00:08:45,180 what I worry about with this is like a 192 00:08:51,290 --> 00:08:50,030 you know where everybody's excited that 193 00:08:54,050 --> 00:08:51,300 the smartest people are going to be 194 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:54,060 looking at this topic and in the end 195 00:08:59,090 --> 00:08:56,880 it gets poo pooed 196 00:09:01,970 --> 00:08:59,100 and I do think that there is a little 197 00:09:03,290 --> 00:09:01,980 bit of a disconnect between what some 198 00:09:04,910 --> 00:09:03,300 people 199 00:09:07,009 --> 00:09:04,920 um you know pay attention to and get 200 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:07,019 into regarding this topic and and even 201 00:09:12,410 --> 00:09:09,959 with Congress and you know how Senator 202 00:09:14,570 --> 00:09:12,420 gillibrand talks for instance 203 00:09:15,470 --> 00:09:14,580 you know we have all this stuff about 204 00:09:17,389 --> 00:09:15,480 um 205 00:09:18,350 --> 00:09:17,399 uh whistleblowers and all that kind of 206 00:09:20,030 --> 00:09:18,360 stuff 207 00:09:21,949 --> 00:09:20,040 um going to shonker Patrick and I think 208 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:21,959 that's been verified for sure and people 209 00:09:26,690 --> 00:09:25,200 have talked to him about 210 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:26,700 um 211 00:09:33,170 --> 00:09:30,300 you know reverse engineering of UFOs 212 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:33,180 and dark projects from the government on 213 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:34,560 that kind of stuff and people have 214 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:36,300 reported that to Dr Kirkpatrick 215 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:42,470 you know and we have Tim burchett going 216 00:09:45,769 --> 00:09:44,160 you know there's a big cover-up there's 217 00:09:48,110 --> 00:09:45,779 a massive cover-up you know and Senator 218 00:09:50,449 --> 00:09:48,120 jailbrand doesn't really get into the 219 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:50,459 Weeds on that at all 220 00:09:56,410 --> 00:09:52,740 as far as like another kind of life or 221 00:09:59,090 --> 00:09:56,420 anything she seems to be more uh foreign 222 00:10:01,910 --> 00:09:59,100 oriented and she just did an interview 223 00:10:03,650 --> 00:10:01,920 with the good trouble show met Ford 224 00:10:06,889 --> 00:10:03,660 um you know it was a good interview and 225 00:10:09,470 --> 00:10:06,899 I'm super glad that she actually you 226 00:10:10,670 --> 00:10:09,480 know donated her time to talk to one of 227 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:10,680 those channels I thought it was really 228 00:10:14,570 --> 00:10:12,720 cool a couple things that she said in 229 00:10:17,570 --> 00:10:14,580 there is that stuck out to me one of 230 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:17,580 them was uh we won't know all the past 231 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:19,680 Secrets but I'll make sure we know the 232 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:22,080 future ones a little bit concerning to 233 00:10:27,949 --> 00:10:25,260 me especially uh considering their deep 234 00:10:30,829 --> 00:10:27,959 dive back to 1945 that they're supposed 235 00:10:32,930 --> 00:10:30,839 to do I understand that it wouldn't take 236 00:10:35,210 --> 00:10:32,940 um wouldn't be priority maybe for 237 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:35,220 Kirkpatrick as as we learned in his 238 00:10:39,530 --> 00:10:37,680 hearing the safety of the different 239 00:10:41,930 --> 00:10:39,540 military bases and everything is is 240 00:10:44,509 --> 00:10:41,940 Paramount in in the history aspect would 241 00:10:45,889 --> 00:10:44,519 come later but for her to say that we 242 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:45,899 won't know all the past Secrets but I'll 243 00:10:49,009 --> 00:10:47,880 make sure we know the future ones 244 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:49,019 um 245 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:50,760 you know what does that mean I would I 246 00:10:54,769 --> 00:10:52,440 would have loved to unpack that a little 247 00:10:57,410 --> 00:10:54,779 more if we're going back to 1945 what do 248 00:10:59,630 --> 00:10:57,420 you mean you know um 249 00:11:02,030 --> 00:10:59,640 and what are these Whistle blowers for 250 00:11:03,710 --> 00:11:02,040 that are coming to you know tell 251 00:11:06,889 --> 00:11:03,720 Kirkpatrick about reverse engineering 252 00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:06,899 stuff in Black projects that would have 253 00:11:11,150 --> 00:11:09,120 um happened in the past 254 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:11,160 and it's a secret so I'm not sure what's 255 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:12,600 up there 256 00:11:18,050 --> 00:11:15,240 um she also said something you know and 257 00:11:19,730 --> 00:11:18,060 I must say that I wasn't like super 258 00:11:22,069 --> 00:11:19,740 focused on the interview I was listening 259 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:22,079 to it while I was doing other things so 260 00:11:25,730 --> 00:11:24,480 uh you know my if my nose could be 261 00:11:28,310 --> 00:11:25,740 better I'm sorry but the other thing 262 00:11:31,009 --> 00:11:28,320 that she said was uh arrow is not for 263 00:11:31,970 --> 00:11:31,019 UFO enthusiasts 264 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:31,980 um 265 00:11:38,269 --> 00:11:34,380 you know I'm not saying that it should 266 00:11:39,769 --> 00:11:38,279 be but but why why say that I guess you 267 00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:39,779 know 268 00:11:44,449 --> 00:11:41,820 um 269 00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:44,459 I don't know I I probably wouldn't uh I 270 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:46,140 probably wouldn't use that language UFO 271 00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:48,600 enthusiasts the other thing is uh 272 00:11:52,730 --> 00:11:50,820 whistleblowers so they're trying to get 273 00:11:54,949 --> 00:11:52,740 a public-facing website we know that 274 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:54,959 already 275 00:12:01,370 --> 00:11:57,360 um she kind of gave a little more 276 00:12:03,170 --> 00:12:01,380 details on that which would be a website 277 00:12:04,910 --> 00:12:03,180 that would um 278 00:12:07,370 --> 00:12:04,920 you know be public facing where anyone 279 00:12:08,449 --> 00:12:07,380 could upload media so like you know if I 280 00:12:10,190 --> 00:12:08,459 caught something or you caught something 281 00:12:13,250 --> 00:12:10,200 you could upload it it's kind of weird 282 00:12:14,810 --> 00:12:13,260 and also they would put a unclassified 283 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:14,820 data 284 00:12:18,050 --> 00:12:16,680 um from Arrow so that's pretty good that 285 00:12:21,230 --> 00:12:18,060 they'll have a public website where that 286 00:12:24,050 --> 00:12:21,240 stuff goes unfortunately uh she also 287 00:12:26,389 --> 00:12:24,060 said Advanced foreign technology like um 288 00:12:27,949 --> 00:12:26,399 I think Matt asked something in in 289 00:12:30,230 --> 00:12:27,959 regards to Keeping a Secret and all that 290 00:12:31,970 --> 00:12:30,240 kind of stuff keeping secrets and she 291 00:12:33,590 --> 00:12:31,980 mentioned foreign technology so if like 292 00:12:36,170 --> 00:12:33,600 China or something had super Advanced 293 00:12:38,630 --> 00:12:36,180 drones or technology 294 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:38,640 um we wouldn't find out about it 295 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:40,740 basically Advanced foreign technology 296 00:12:45,050 --> 00:12:43,440 would stay secret so 297 00:12:48,410 --> 00:12:45,060 um what kind of evidence would we 298 00:12:51,290 --> 00:12:48,420 actually see in the unclassified website 299 00:12:55,129 --> 00:12:51,300 um I would imagine it would be 300 00:12:57,470 --> 00:12:55,139 um either really boring prosaic stuff or 301 00:13:01,550 --> 00:12:57,480 likely Prozac but they weren't able to 302 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:04,730 like that orb video that we got 303 00:13:09,170 --> 00:13:07,680 not too uh that we got pretty recently 304 00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:09,180 from the hearing 305 00:13:13,490 --> 00:13:11,519 so I don't know I don't think Jilla 306 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:13,500 brand is really too concerned about uh 307 00:13:18,650 --> 00:13:15,839 non-human intelligence 308 00:13:20,090 --> 00:13:18,660 to be quite Frank and I don't think a 309 00:13:21,650 --> 00:13:20,100 lot of people are 310 00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:21,660 um 311 00:13:25,610 --> 00:13:22,980 I don't know there's a disconnect 312 00:13:27,829 --> 00:13:25,620 there's there's one side of people that 313 00:13:29,810 --> 00:13:27,839 are just you know really playing it cool 314 00:13:31,129 --> 00:13:29,820 as far as this goes and just really 315 00:13:33,530 --> 00:13:31,139 concerned about things like Chinese 316 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:33,540 balloons and 317 00:13:39,710 --> 00:13:36,240 um you know all that kind of stuff and 318 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:39,720 uh you know foreign technology so and 319 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:42,240 there's another group that's really 320 00:13:45,290 --> 00:13:43,920 concerned with the whistleblowers crash 321 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:45,300 retrievals and all that kind of stuff 322 00:13:49,970 --> 00:13:48,480 and those two are so different 323 00:13:52,009 --> 00:13:49,980 um it would be great to have some people 324 00:13:53,340 --> 00:13:52,019 on the same page so apparently some news 325 00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:53,350 that came in was 326 00:13:56,030 --> 00:13:54,000 [Music] 327 00:14:02,509 --> 00:13:59,269 Roswell Daily News I think reported that 328 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:02,519 um another uh hearing except this time 329 00:14:07,129 --> 00:14:04,560 in the Congress has or 330 00:14:10,190 --> 00:14:07,139 yeah not the Senate but the house 331 00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:10,200 another hearing has been approved so but 332 00:14:13,190 --> 00:14:11,519 they're figuring out the details and 333 00:14:15,170 --> 00:14:13,200 probably in June so we'll see how that 334 00:14:17,629 --> 00:14:15,180 goes what I would really like to see is 335 00:14:20,210 --> 00:14:17,639 a multi-day hearing with multiple 336 00:14:23,449 --> 00:14:20,220 Witnesses you know whether they have 337 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:23,459 been a part of previous uh programs or 338 00:14:27,650 --> 00:14:25,500 they were just you know witnesses to 339 00:14:29,389 --> 00:14:27,660 some pretty intense UAP encounters I 340 00:14:31,129 --> 00:14:29,399 would see a mult I would like to see a 341 00:14:33,889 --> 00:14:31,139 multi-day thing where where all those 342 00:14:35,569 --> 00:14:33,899 people get to talk on the record uh once 343 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:35,579 and for all you know if you really want 344 00:14:41,210 --> 00:14:39,060 to tackle this subject like stop beating 345 00:14:43,370 --> 00:14:41,220 around the bush go direct to the 346 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:43,380 witnesses let's see their conviction 347 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:46,320 their emotion their honesty and their 348 00:14:52,610 --> 00:14:49,440 truth because really that's why we're 349 00:14:54,410 --> 00:14:52,620 all here we're not here because someone 350 00:14:56,350 --> 00:14:54,420 who hasn't witnessed something said 351 00:14:59,090 --> 00:14:56,360 something right we're all here because 352 00:15:01,730 --> 00:14:59,100 really impressive people have reported 353 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:01,740 really impressive things you know or 354 00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:03,360 where somebody who has seen something 355 00:15:08,030 --> 00:15:05,760 ourselves let's stop eating around the 356 00:15:09,889 --> 00:15:08,040 bush and hear from these people 357 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:09,899 you know if people have taken part in 358 00:15:15,170 --> 00:15:12,660 past dark programs that has to do with 359 00:15:18,290 --> 00:15:15,180 UFOs and retrievals 360 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:18,300 let's get those people testified you 361 00:15:21,310 --> 00:15:20,040 know 362 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:21,320 so 363 00:15:30,050 --> 00:15:27,839 that's what I would like to see 364 00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:30,060 speaking of the hearings they did show 365 00:15:34,129 --> 00:15:32,399 that video that they weren't able to 366 00:15:36,009 --> 00:15:34,139 identify 367 00:15:38,689 --> 00:15:36,019 um 368 00:15:40,129 --> 00:15:38,699 Dr Shanker Patrick did and the one was a 369 00:15:42,410 --> 00:15:40,139 plane or whatever and the other was a 370 00:15:44,509 --> 00:15:42,420 sphere that they couldn't identify it 371 00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:44,519 was definitely weird looking was it uh 372 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:48,480 spooky like UFO stuff I don't know 373 00:15:52,670 --> 00:15:51,360 um it was definitely weird but it's 374 00:15:54,530 --> 00:15:52,680 blurry enough where it could be anything 375 00:15:56,930 --> 00:15:54,540 you know and I always say this when it 376 00:15:58,490 --> 00:15:56,940 comes to like classic UFO videos or 377 00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:58,500 pictures 378 00:16:01,970 --> 00:16:00,720 um what they really represent is an ink 379 00:16:04,910 --> 00:16:01,980 blot 380 00:16:07,069 --> 00:16:04,920 you know so anytime you see a UFO video 381 00:16:10,430 --> 00:16:07,079 or a picture it's always kind of fuzzy 382 00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:10,440 enough to where you know it's in the eye 383 00:16:15,290 --> 00:16:12,959 of the beholder like I can see a UFO 384 00:16:17,389 --> 00:16:15,300 just as much as anyone else could see a 385 00:16:19,790 --> 00:16:17,399 balloon and there's nothing to prove 386 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:19,800 otherwise you know these are ink plots 387 00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:21,120 make 388 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:29,090 so uh but I 389 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:30,959 this article that I want to go over from 390 00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:32,880 Liberation times I thought was really 391 00:16:39,769 --> 00:16:36,240 cool for a couple reasons first of all 392 00:16:43,790 --> 00:16:39,779 it's scientific uh an aeronautical 393 00:16:47,569 --> 00:16:43,800 engineer who is staying Anonymous 394 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:47,579 um wrote about this Fear Can spheres fly 395 00:16:53,090 --> 00:16:50,420 and he put some time into Research into 396 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:53,100 looking at what it would take to you 397 00:16:56,689 --> 00:16:54,480 know to have a sphere fly in how that 398 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,699 would happen so he says after seeing all 399 00:17:00,110 --> 00:16:58,320 the recent news about slang orbs and 400 00:17:02,030 --> 00:17:00,120 spheres a few colleagues and I spent 401 00:17:04,010 --> 00:17:02,040 time looking at the possibilities of how 402 00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:04,020 spheres could fly or at least levitate 403 00:17:08,689 --> 00:17:06,240 this fear is absolutely not an effective 404 00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:08,699 aerodynamic shape but subsonic speeds it 405 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:10,319 creates no lift and generates large 406 00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:12,000 amounts of drag as the boundary layer 407 00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:13,919 separates from the surface once it 408 00:17:18,650 --> 00:17:16,319 reaches the maximum diameter 409 00:17:20,449 --> 00:17:18,660 and its supersonic speeds it forms a 410 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:20,459 strong Bose shock wave and acts as a 411 00:17:25,370 --> 00:17:22,799 speed brick the USSR uses spherical 412 00:17:27,949 --> 00:17:25,380 shape for its bow stock one re-entry 413 00:17:29,450 --> 00:17:27,959 vehicle for this reason so aerodynamics 414 00:17:31,370 --> 00:17:29,460 is not the answer 415 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:31,380 a few months ago a colleague proposed a 416 00:17:36,350 --> 00:17:33,600 hypothesis that his fear was built with 417 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,360 exotic superconducting materials some of 418 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:38,160 these include bismuth in case that 419 00:17:44,690 --> 00:17:42,000 sounds familiar it does could fly using 420 00:17:46,730 --> 00:17:44,700 Quantum magnetic levitation also known 421 00:17:49,310 --> 00:17:46,740 as the meissner effect 422 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:49,320 when these materials are cooled to or 423 00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:50,760 below the critical temperature they 424 00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:53,039 expel magnetic fields this effect would 425 00:17:56,270 --> 00:17:54,480 apply to the Earth's magnetic field 426 00:17:58,490 --> 00:17:56,280 therefore by switching sections of 427 00:18:00,770 --> 00:17:58,500 sphere's surface on to expel the 428 00:18:02,990 --> 00:18:00,780 magnetic field and off to stop the 429 00:18:05,690 --> 00:18:03,000 effect one could make a sphere levitate 430 00:18:07,789 --> 00:18:05,700 and even move in any direction 431 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:07,799 the round shape is the perfect shape to 432 00:18:11,630 --> 00:18:09,600 achieve such movement depending on the 433 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:11,640 granularity of these superconductor 434 00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:14,520 sections we initially dismissed this 435 00:18:19,610 --> 00:18:16,559 hypothesis because the Earth's magnetic 436 00:18:21,710 --> 00:18:19,620 field is weak and a 5 to 10 foot 437 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,720 diameter sphere would have no way of 438 00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:24,000 generating the needed power but our 439 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:25,919 thinking has evolved and we now think 440 00:18:30,409 --> 00:18:27,960 this is a viable solution when coupled 441 00:18:31,909 --> 00:18:30,419 with another emerging Technology power 442 00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:31,919 beaming 443 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:34,140 let's discuss the Meisner effect and how 444 00:18:39,169 --> 00:18:36,720 it would work first assuming the sphere 445 00:18:40,850 --> 00:18:39,179 can generate enough cooling power or 446 00:18:43,070 --> 00:18:40,860 that the Earth's magnetic field can be 447 00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:43,080 Amplified as fear built out of exotic 448 00:18:48,890 --> 00:18:45,120 superconducting materials could levitate 449 00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:48,900 stale often wins and even move in any 450 00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:49,919 direction 451 00:18:53,810 --> 00:18:51,840 this could be accomplished by placing 452 00:18:55,370 --> 00:18:53,820 this superconducting plates in a 453 00:18:57,289 --> 00:18:55,380 grid-like fashion 454 00:18:59,810 --> 00:18:57,299 the plates would be independent of each 455 00:19:02,210 --> 00:18:59,820 other and could be turned on 456 00:19:04,909 --> 00:19:02,220 in tune to expel the magnetic field or 457 00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:04,919 turned off to not expelled by an 458 00:19:10,370 --> 00:19:07,320 algorithm depending on what maneuver it 459 00:19:14,990 --> 00:19:12,650 to levitate the sphere would turn off or 460 00:19:17,450 --> 00:19:15,000 lower the power of the plates on the top 461 00:19:19,130 --> 00:19:17,460 half and turn on and adjust the power of 462 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:19,140 the plates on the bottom half to expel 463 00:19:22,730 --> 00:19:20,640 the magnetic field 464 00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:22,740 too much power in the sphere shoots 465 00:19:27,289 --> 00:19:25,020 upward or too little and it falls to the 466 00:19:29,150 --> 00:19:27,299 ground the same applies to staying Aloft 467 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:29,160 in high winds plates over the surface 468 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,960 would power up to expel the magnetic 469 00:19:35,210 --> 00:19:32,640 field and push against the wind 470 00:19:36,890 --> 00:19:35,220 multi-axis movement can also be achieved 471 00:19:38,450 --> 00:19:36,900 in this manner by increasing power to 472 00:19:40,909 --> 00:19:38,460 some of the plates and lowering or 473 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:40,919 switching off others 474 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:43,260 with increasing grid granularity which 475 00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:44,760 results in smaller and smaller plates 476 00:19:48,409 --> 00:19:46,799 the maneuvering capability becomes 477 00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,419 increasingly sharper 478 00:19:52,190 --> 00:19:50,880 this technology could stop hover and 479 00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:52,200 accelerate in a different direction 480 00:19:55,549 --> 00:19:54,120 mimicking some of the descriptions of 481 00:19:58,190 --> 00:19:55,559 UAP 482 00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:58,200 with this technology it can what this 483 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,480 technology can account for is supersonic 484 00:20:05,210 --> 00:20:02,640 speed 485 00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:05,220 assuming the combination of very cool 486 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,980 high cooling power in enhanced magnetic 487 00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:09,600 field in a lightning fast computer to 488 00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:11,820 control the superconducting plates this 489 00:20:16,370 --> 00:20:13,679 system can go from hover to high 490 00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:16,380 subsonic speeds and stop and turn at 90 491 00:20:20,690 --> 00:20:19,140 degree angles but crossing the transonic 492 00:20:22,610 --> 00:20:20,700 barrier and dealing with a bow shock 493 00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:22,620 wave requires a very different type of 494 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:25,260 Technology like plasma actuators that we 495 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,600 will save for another time 496 00:20:32,270 --> 00:20:30,480 let's now turn to the other platform 497 00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:32,280 first magnetic field is very weak 498 00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:35,220 ranging from 0.3 to 0.6 Gauss a magnet 499 00:20:39,230 --> 00:20:37,440 you hang on your fridge door has a 500 00:20:40,909 --> 00:20:39,240 strength of a hundred it goes for 501 00:20:42,529 --> 00:20:40,919 comparison to make this work we would 502 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:42,539 need an extremely cooled superconductor 503 00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:45,120 combined with some way to amplify the 504 00:20:49,070 --> 00:20:46,799 magnetic field 505 00:20:51,049 --> 00:20:49,080 this is the original reason we rejected 506 00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:51,059 this idea earlier but that was only 507 00:20:55,070 --> 00:20:52,559 until we realized it could be 508 00:20:57,710 --> 00:20:55,080 accomplished with power beaming 509 00:20:59,390 --> 00:20:57,720 power beaming is defined as a 510 00:21:02,029 --> 00:20:59,400 point-to-point transfer of electrical 511 00:21:04,490 --> 00:21:02,039 energy by a directed electromagnetic 512 00:21:07,070 --> 00:21:04,500 beam who's the brainchild of Nikola 513 00:21:08,510 --> 00:21:07,080 Tesla but only now is finally becoming a 514 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,520 reality 515 00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,559 the basics involve a large craft or 516 00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:12,799 satellite let's call it the mothership 517 00:21:17,570 --> 00:21:15,059 bimic powered a smaller dependent 518 00:21:19,610 --> 00:21:17,580 Vehicles let's call them lightcraft via 519 00:21:22,190 --> 00:21:19,620 electromagnetic beams such as lasers 520 00:21:24,590 --> 00:21:22,200 microwaves or similar methods 521 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:24,600 we have even tested this technology on 522 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:28,080 the space force forces x37b space bling 523 00:21:31,970 --> 00:21:30,299 the majority of future drones and 524 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:31,980 satellites will almost certainly be like 525 00:21:34,970 --> 00:21:33,720 graphs that are powered by a Mothership 526 00:21:37,310 --> 00:21:34,980 of some kind 527 00:21:39,890 --> 00:21:37,320 if our hypothetical sphere is a light 528 00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:39,900 graft and has a powerful Mothership then 529 00:21:44,810 --> 00:21:42,840 the obstacles start to melt away 530 00:21:46,370 --> 00:21:44,820 powerful Mothership with advanced 531 00:21:48,529 --> 00:21:46,380 technology can certainly beam enough 532 00:21:50,330 --> 00:21:48,539 power to our sphere to achieve extreme 533 00:21:52,669 --> 00:21:50,340 super cool temperatures 534 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,679 and with Advanced enough technology such 535 00:21:56,450 --> 00:21:54,480 a Mothership could even increase the 536 00:21:57,649 --> 00:21:56,460 strength of the magnetic field around 537 00:22:00,289 --> 00:21:57,659 the sphere 538 00:22:02,990 --> 00:22:00,299 so the concept was still far-fetched 539 00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:03,000 does not seem impossible 540 00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:05,100 anymore 541 00:22:10,370 --> 00:22:08,220 condorman who wishes to remain anonymous 542 00:22:12,049 --> 00:22:10,380 as a senior level aerospace engineer who 543 00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:12,059 has worked in the defense industry for 544 00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:14,100 over 30 years designing advanced 545 00:22:16,970 --> 00:22:15,240 technology 546 00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:16,980 so there you go 547 00:22:20,690 --> 00:22:18,900 I thought that was pretty cool to get 548 00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:20,700 that so 549 00:22:24,289 --> 00:22:22,740 This Guy's in the Aerospace bits you 550 00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:24,299 know can I confirm that no he goes by 551 00:22:28,610 --> 00:22:26,159 Anonymous but he sounds pretty dang 552 00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:28,620 smart and he doesn't say that spheres 553 00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:31,500 flying at super fast 554 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,020 um speeds is necessarily possible but 555 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,240 everything else 556 00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:38,880 theoretically is 557 00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:40,860 so it's pretty interesting 558 00:22:45,649 --> 00:22:43,440 kind of goes to show well you know what 559 00:22:47,149 --> 00:22:45,659 I always think is American Tech what 560 00:22:49,490 --> 00:22:47,159 we're working on is always far in 561 00:22:52,850 --> 00:22:49,500 advance of what we see 562 00:22:55,130 --> 00:22:52,860 you know like the YouTube plane 563 00:22:58,730 --> 00:22:55,140 I think it made a first official test 564 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:58,740 flight 1955. I want to say 565 00:23:02,810 --> 00:23:00,240 but they were working on it for a few 566 00:23:05,390 --> 00:23:02,820 years before that is that what this fear 567 00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,400 is maybe possibly 568 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,679 so you want to always research UFOs back 569 00:23:10,730 --> 00:23:09,600 in the day they're never as small as 570 00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:10,740 these fears 571 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,780 so it's pretty interesting 572 00:23:19,610 --> 00:23:15,120 but we'll see 573 00:23:21,529 --> 00:23:19,620 time well freaking tell man I'll tell 574 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:21,539 you that right now 575 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:23,700 so I thought that was a great article 576 00:23:29,390 --> 00:23:26,400 and I think now is probably a good time 577 00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:29,400 to maybe 578 00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:33,000 I don't know transition into 579 00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:40,070 thought that we could get into 580 00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:40,679 um 581 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:42,799 some 582 00:23:49,370 --> 00:23:46,320 old documents and old cases and I find 583 00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:53,990 but for now I think this is probably 584 00:24:04,310 --> 00:23:59,330 good time for me to take a talking break 585 00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,669 that way I can really deliver on the 586 00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:09,360 second half of the show 587 00:24:14,090 --> 00:24:10,980 because you know that's important to me 588 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:24,250 let's do this 589 00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:26,990 good evening tonight we go after a 590 00:24:31,610 --> 00:24:29,460 fantastic story the story that flying 591 00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:31,620 saucers from other worlds are visiting 592 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:34,080 our planet just as we are exploring 593 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:35,940 outer space with our own rocket 594 00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,200 satellites 595 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,360 Our Guest is former Marine Air Corps 596 00:24:43,070 --> 00:24:41,760 Major Donald Keyhole who has the 597 00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,080 supportive scores of prominent 598 00:24:47,870 --> 00:24:45,360 businessmen military men and some 599 00:24:50,330 --> 00:24:47,880 scientists it is campaign to prove that 600 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:50,340 flying saucers exist 601 00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,900 if you're curious to know why major 602 00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:53,760 keyhoe charges at the United States Air 603 00:24:58,970 --> 00:24:56,400 Force is deliberately deluding us when 604 00:25:00,409 --> 00:24:58,980 it called Salsa's story is the bunk if 605 00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:00,419 you want to hear his own evidence that 606 00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:02,940 the saucers are real and his reaction to 607 00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:04,380 the claim of two Americans who say 608 00:25:08,990 --> 00:25:07,320 they've spoken with men from Venus 609 00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:09,000 we'll go after those stories in just a 610 00:25:12,649 --> 00:25:09,720 moment 611 00:25:16,330 --> 00:25:12,659 my name is Mike Wallace the cigarette is 612 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:18,230 the new 613 00:25:23,169 --> 00:25:21,290 High filtration filter Parliament 614 00:25:25,390 --> 00:25:23,179 [Music] 615 00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:25,400 presents 616 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,370 a Mike Wallace interview 617 00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:37,200 we'll meet major Kehoe in just a minute 618 00:25:42,890 --> 00:25:39,720 how does your cigarette stack up against 619 00:25:45,169 --> 00:25:42,900 other brands well if parliament's your 620 00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:45,179 smoke you're smoking the best because 621 00:25:49,310 --> 00:25:46,440 now 622 00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:49,320 Parliament with the recessed filter is 623 00:25:51,710 --> 00:25:50,340 best 624 00:25:54,529 --> 00:25:51,720 that's 625 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,539 the new high five or high filtration 626 00:26:00,830 --> 00:25:57,360 polished the proof 627 00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:00,840 well suppose I show you first Parliament 628 00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:03,360 is best because only Parliament can give 629 00:26:10,130 --> 00:26:06,600 you over 30 000 traps no other popular 630 00:26:13,090 --> 00:26:10,140 cigarette delivers less nicotine and tar 631 00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:13,100 second unlike ordinary filters 632 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:16,740 parliament's filter is recessed set feet 633 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:19,919 down inside here so the Trap nicotine 634 00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:22,559 and tar can't get on your lips 635 00:26:27,529 --> 00:26:25,320 and third because it's recessed there's 636 00:26:29,810 --> 00:26:27,539 no bitter taste of concentrated nicotine 637 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,820 and tar to spoil parliament's pure 638 00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:31,440 tobacco flavor 639 00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:33,480 these filter findings are confirmed by 640 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:35,700 the United States testing company 641 00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:38,640 over 30 000 traps exclusive recessed 642 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:41,400 filter flavor pure protection 643 00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:43,980 yes now smoke the best high filtration 644 00:26:52,909 --> 00:26:50,690 and now to our story 645 00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:52,919 major Donald Kehoe is the director of 646 00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:55,260 the national investigations committee on 647 00:26:59,630 --> 00:26:56,880 aerial phenomena 648 00:27:01,970 --> 00:26:59,640 as head of this private group interested 649 00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:01,980 in flying sauces he's repeatedly 650 00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,720 attacked the United States Air Force and 651 00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,000 others proclaiming that flying saucers 652 00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:08,400 are apparently Flights of Fancy and not 653 00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:11,400 flights by martians or men from a moon 654 00:27:17,090 --> 00:27:13,559 independent surveys show that millions 655 00:27:19,130 --> 00:27:17,100 of Americans do share his beliefs in 656 00:27:20,990 --> 00:27:19,140 these Celestial sources 657 00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:21,000 major Keyhole first of all let me ask 658 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,440 you this most people in the United 659 00:27:26,210 --> 00:27:24,720 States in spite of the fact that I say 660 00:27:27,490 --> 00:27:26,220 that Millions do believe I think you 661 00:27:30,169 --> 00:27:27,500 will agree 662 00:27:34,669 --> 00:27:30,179 all right all right all right all right 663 00:27:41,049 --> 00:27:35,750 he's alive 664 00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:43,730 yes so 665 00:27:48,529 --> 00:27:46,080 um that Mike Wallace interview is pretty 666 00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:48,539 interesting for sure and it reminds me 667 00:27:55,250 --> 00:27:50,400 so much 668 00:27:58,370 --> 00:27:55,260 of now you know For Better or For Worse 669 00:28:00,409 --> 00:27:58,380 Havana comes in Foo Fighters were small 670 00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:00,419 kind of going back before we hit the 671 00:28:06,649 --> 00:28:02,580 parliament commercial is smaller UFOs 672 00:28:09,409 --> 00:28:06,659 yeah they did I mean they were reported 673 00:28:13,010 --> 00:28:09,419 I definitely saw some in the Blue Book 674 00:28:14,390 --> 00:28:13,020 files I'm just saying typically but you 675 00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:14,400 know 676 00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:20,039 what the hell 677 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,799 this stuff is so 678 00:28:27,529 --> 00:28:24,960 you know there's that 679 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:27,539 [Laughter] 680 00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:36,529 that I have just branded that's called a 681 00:28:40,370 --> 00:28:37,919 blast 682 00:28:44,150 --> 00:28:40,380 from the past you see this life and 683 00:28:53,390 --> 00:28:44,160 where all right you've seen one yeah 684 00:28:58,909 --> 00:28:56,630 all right it blast from the past so I 685 00:29:01,970 --> 00:28:58,919 put together a little thing here for us 686 00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:01,980 that we can 687 00:29:05,570 --> 00:29:03,419 foreign 688 00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,580 get into so I'm having some computer 689 00:29:11,149 --> 00:29:07,679 issues here 690 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:11,159 so Blast from the Past what I wanted to 691 00:29:23,090 --> 00:29:19,789 I don't know why it just keeps playing 692 00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:23,100 sorry about that is this interesting 693 00:29:33,769 --> 00:29:30,950 there are a lot of sightings in July 694 00:29:38,090 --> 00:29:33,779 1952 695 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,100 it all came to a head with Washington DC 696 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,320 and general Samford here 697 00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,000 and they said the Washington DC 698 00:29:46,730 --> 00:29:45,120 sightings were temperature inversions 699 00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:46,740 now there's a big press conference with 700 00:29:51,970 --> 00:29:48,360 General Sanford that a lot of people 701 00:29:54,889 --> 00:29:51,980 recognize or remember 702 00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:54,899 but most of the press conference is not 703 00:29:59,149 --> 00:29:56,940 in that clip that's a five minute clip 704 00:30:01,850 --> 00:29:59,159 that's online that you can see but the 705 00:30:04,669 --> 00:30:01,860 actual transcript of the whole thing is 706 00:30:06,289 --> 00:30:04,679 in the archives so I pulled it up and 707 00:30:07,850 --> 00:30:06,299 just took a couple bits of this so we 708 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:07,860 could see 709 00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:10,860 um major Sanford here who says 710 00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:14,340 you know first the press to ask them 711 00:30:19,130 --> 00:30:17,100 um is it all right to ask if the Air 712 00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:19,140 Force thinks that these objects the 713 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:21,840 other night in DC were a result of 714 00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:23,760 temperature inversions 715 00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:26,220 Sanford said well I'll answer that first 716 00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:28,559 try to and then ask Captain James for an 717 00:30:33,049 --> 00:30:31,020 opinion I don't think that we are quite 718 00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:33,059 sure that the Menzel theory of 719 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:35,340 temperature inversion or that scientists 720 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,679 are sure that this is a good theory it's 721 00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:39,360 supported by some people other people 722 00:30:45,049 --> 00:30:41,460 who have had equal competence it would 723 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,059 appear discredited so the gamble as to 724 00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,000 whether it is the cause or not is about 725 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:51,120 50 50 preposition it's appealing it does 726 00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:54,000 satisfy certain concerns is that a fair 727 00:30:58,610 --> 00:30:55,679 statement or answer to that question 728 00:31:00,350 --> 00:30:58,620 then Captain James corrects them sir the 729 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:00,360 Menzel Theory applies mainly to light 730 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,320 rays yes yes oh yes in regard to the 731 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:06,000 temperature inversion effect on radar 732 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:08,580 waves it's fairly well established uh 733 00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:10,980 down below the Press said uh wasn't 734 00:31:15,409 --> 00:31:13,679 there a naval battle during the during 735 00:31:18,529 --> 00:31:15,419 the war in which there was a great 736 00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:18,539 engagement fought against an inversion 737 00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:21,360 of radar I would love 738 00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:23,940 to know more about that story 739 00:31:27,169 --> 00:31:25,320 they were fighting a temperature 740 00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:27,179 inversion 741 00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:29,940 um that would be great to know 742 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:31,860 um but you can see here yeah Sanford did 743 00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:33,600 the temperature inversion thing it's 744 00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:35,460 interesting that he said actually it was 745 00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:40,250 you know and a lot of people didn't 746 00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:41,880 agree on it although the temperature 747 00:31:48,049 --> 00:31:44,760 inversion for the DC sightings went on 748 00:31:51,769 --> 00:31:48,059 to be the reason for them 749 00:31:55,970 --> 00:31:53,810 wasn't too sure about it 750 00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,980 the Press says General Sanford to clear 751 00:31:59,630 --> 00:31:57,840 that point up I think Captain James 752 00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:59,640 indicated earlier in this reference the 753 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:01,320 temperature inversion you now say that 754 00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:03,299 these are good returns 755 00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:04,980 can you get good Returns on this 756 00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:08,100 temperature inversion reflection 757 00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:10,200 that's what he says 758 00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:12,120 that's just a small part of it this 759 00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:15,360 story gets a lot better 760 00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:18,120 so I actually 761 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:25,909 something very interesting 762 00:32:31,549 --> 00:32:27,409 in 763 00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:34,370 that I want to get to 764 00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:37,500 and here it is 765 00:32:43,730 --> 00:32:40,440 but first of all let me actually 766 00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,740 do something else 767 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,600 I gotta do this a different way sorry 768 00:32:50,029 --> 00:32:48,000 about that 769 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:50,039 here we go so I found this in the 770 00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:51,120 newspaper and I thought it was really 771 00:32:55,370 --> 00:32:52,919 good because for all the research that 772 00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:55,380 I've put into the DC sightings and 773 00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:57,659 everything somehow I missed this story 774 00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:01,260 and it's a first person account from the 775 00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:04,500 actual CAA which is now the FAA but the 776 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,620 CAA radar operator who had a few years 777 00:33:12,130 --> 00:33:09,600 of experience 778 00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:12,140 um so I took this story from the Buffalo 779 00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:17,460 News July 31st 1952 how CAA radar in 780 00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:19,260 Washington it's about a mysterious 781 00:33:31,789 --> 00:33:26,930 was a really cool picture by the way as 782 00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:31,799 well so saucers moved halter Skelter 783 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,539 the controller said I don't know what 784 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:36,000 they are it says radar men of saucer CAA 785 00:33:40,370 --> 00:33:38,460 controller who watched Pips which were 786 00:33:43,370 --> 00:33:40,380 the blips the things that show up on the 787 00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:43,380 radar screen for hours declares they're 788 00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:46,320 not natural phenomena Harry G Barnes who 789 00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:48,360 wrote this eyewitness account 790 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:50,519 of this month's first appearance of 791 00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:52,740 flying saucers over Washington has been 792 00:33:58,009 --> 00:33:55,380 working on radar traffic control for 793 00:33:59,810 --> 00:33:58,019 over five years 794 00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,820 so we got somebody really experienced 795 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,440 actually writing this article which is 796 00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:03,120 great 797 00:34:09,470 --> 00:34:07,260 so shortly after midnight on July 19th 798 00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:09,480 Ed Nugent called me over to the radar 799 00:34:15,050 --> 00:34:11,879 scope and laughingly said 800 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,060 here's a fleet of flank saucers for you 801 00:34:20,329 --> 00:34:17,280 as it turns out now Ed could very well 802 00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:20,339 have been stating an absolute fact I'm a 803 00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:22,080 senior air Route traffic controller for 804 00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,720 civil Aeronautics Administration and was 805 00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,159 in charge of the air Route traffic 806 00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:28,320 control center that particular night at 807 00:34:32,930 --> 00:34:30,359 Washington's national airport 808 00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:32,940 briefly part of our job is to constantly 809 00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:34,919 monitor the skies around the nation's 810 00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:37,080 capital with the electronic eye of radar 811 00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:40,980 for purposes of controlling air traffic 812 00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:43,260 our shift had been on duty about 40 813 00:34:47,450 --> 00:34:45,240 minutes eight men were on this 814 00:34:49,849 --> 00:34:47,460 particular shift it was a normal night 815 00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:49,859 for both flying and weather the sky was 816 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:52,440 cloudless no storms were approaching 817 00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:55,020 air traffic was light as usual for that 818 00:34:58,130 --> 00:34:55,919 period 819 00:35:01,550 --> 00:34:58,140 I think those facts are important in 820 00:35:04,130 --> 00:35:01,560 connection with what came later 821 00:35:06,050 --> 00:35:04,140 the things which caused Ed to call me 822 00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:06,060 over to the scope were seven fips 823 00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:09,300 clustered irregularly in one corner the 824 00:35:14,050 --> 00:35:11,579 scope is 24 inches in diameter and the 825 00:35:16,670 --> 00:35:14,060 Pips show up at a pale Violet spots 826 00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:16,680 ordinarily they represent aircraft in 827 00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,800 the air the radar we were using skins 70 828 00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:21,359 mile radius 829 00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:23,160 the seven Pips indicated that the 830 00:35:27,470 --> 00:35:25,320 objects or whatever they were were in 831 00:35:29,870 --> 00:35:27,480 the air over an area about nine miles in 832 00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:29,880 diameter 15 miles South Southwest of 833 00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:32,160 Washington we knew immediately that a 834 00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:34,980 very strange situation existed 835 00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:37,200 first from all the information we had at 836 00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:39,540 hand we knew that the spots were not 837 00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:43,200 aircraft at least not friendly aircraft 838 00:35:48,829 --> 00:35:45,900 that left three possibilities enemy 839 00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:48,839 aircraft some unexplained flying objects 840 00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:51,599 there's something wrong with the radar 841 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,820 we tracked the seven Pips for about five 842 00:35:57,770 --> 00:35:55,680 minutes and quickly determined that they 843 00:36:00,530 --> 00:35:57,780 were moving between 100 and 130 miles 844 00:36:02,510 --> 00:36:00,540 per hour while we could observe them 845 00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:02,520 but their movements were completely 846 00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:04,980 radical compared to those of ordinary 847 00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,060 aircraft 848 00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:08,880 they followed no set course we're not in 849 00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,400 any formation and we only seem to be 850 00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:13,200 able to track them for about three miles 851 00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:14,640 at a time 852 00:36:18,829 --> 00:36:16,500 the individual pip would seem to 853 00:36:21,710 --> 00:36:18,839 disappear from the scope at intervals 854 00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:21,720 later I realized that if these objects 855 00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:23,640 had made any sudden burst of extremely 856 00:36:29,930 --> 00:36:26,520 high speed that would account for them 857 00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:29,940 disappearing from the scope temporarily 858 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:32,220 a radar is only designed to track known 859 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:34,320 types of aircraft or objects in the air 860 00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,150 pretty great story 861 00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:46,079 after five minutes of watching The 862 00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:48,540 Strange Pips I asked Jim Copeland and 863 00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:50,700 Jim Ritchie to experience radar 864 00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:52,680 controllers to check our observations 865 00:36:56,569 --> 00:36:54,540 they confirmed our findings then I 866 00:36:58,910 --> 00:36:56,579 called the airport control tower to see 867 00:37:00,530 --> 00:36:58,920 what the radar showed there the radar 868 00:37:02,089 --> 00:37:00,540 operator verified the same thing 869 00:37:05,450 --> 00:37:02,099 instantly 870 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:05,460 at this time I notified the air force of 871 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:07,200 our observation this is a regular 872 00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,880 procedure but some parts of it are 873 00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:10,800 secret and I am not at Liberty to 874 00:37:15,050 --> 00:37:13,020 explain it in detail 875 00:37:16,970 --> 00:37:15,060 but we kept the Air Force informed of 876 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,980 subsequent observations which continued 877 00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:18,960 for approximately the next six hours 878 00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:22,020 until after daylight when we could no 879 00:37:25,730 --> 00:37:23,640 longer distinguish the objects from 880 00:37:28,609 --> 00:37:25,740 other aircraft 881 00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:28,619 an early Sunday morning is an especially 882 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:30,480 busy time for both private flying and 883 00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:32,460 Military Reserve flag 884 00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:34,500 before notifying the air force of our 885 00:37:37,609 --> 00:37:36,240 findings our technicians that carefully 886 00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:37,619 checked the equipment to make certain 887 00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:40,800 that it was operating perfectly 888 00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:44,880 these are the most important events 889 00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:52,069 during it the first hour of the objects 890 00:37:56,750 --> 00:37:54,420 had moved over all sectors of our scope 891 00:37:59,150 --> 00:37:56,760 that meant that they had been over the 892 00:38:04,730 --> 00:37:59,160 restricted areas of Washington including 893 00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:06,829 at the first opportunity Mr Richie 894 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:09,420 contacted Capital airline pilot Captain 895 00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,300 Pearman a veteran of 17 years of flying 896 00:38:16,130 --> 00:38:14,400 shortly after taking off Mr Ritchie ass 897 00:38:18,109 --> 00:38:16,140 kept a pyramid to look for the objects 898 00:38:19,310 --> 00:38:18,119 we were watching on scope he agreed to 899 00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:19,320 do this 900 00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:21,300 all of a sudden his voice came over the 901 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:24,660 radio which we could all hear with the 902 00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:28,320 words there's one and there it goes 903 00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:31,020 he described it as just a bright light 904 00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:33,060 moving faster than a shooting star at 905 00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:34,020 times 906 00:38:38,270 --> 00:38:35,940 his subsequent descriptions of the 907 00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:38,280 movements of the object coincided with 908 00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:42,240 the position of our Pips at all times 909 00:38:51,410 --> 00:38:49,069 during the next 14 minutes he reported 910 00:38:54,050 --> 00:38:51,420 that he saw six such lights 911 00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:54,060 he said they had no tail no recognizable 912 00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:56,760 shape and were just bright lights in the 913 00:39:00,650 --> 00:38:58,140 dark sky 914 00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:00,660 each sighting coincided with a pip 915 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:02,820 we could see near his plane 916 00:39:07,069 --> 00:39:05,040 when he reported that the light streaked 917 00:39:10,130 --> 00:39:07,079 off at high speed it disappeared on her 918 00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:10,140 scope for the apparent reason I cited 919 00:39:14,329 --> 00:39:12,180 while he was giving us reports of his 920 00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:14,339 sightings he was on a course from 921 00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:16,140 Herndon Virginia 922 00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,540 to Martinsburg West Virginia 923 00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:20,640 some of the other Pilots we contacted 924 00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:23,040 reported that they were unable to see 925 00:39:27,710 --> 00:39:25,320 the objects I had the distinct feeling 926 00:39:30,109 --> 00:39:27,720 that some of them were just unwilling to 927 00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:30,119 discuss the subject over the radio 928 00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:32,339 however one other commercial pilot did 929 00:39:36,829 --> 00:39:34,140 flatly confirm seeing a light off his 930 00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:36,839 left wing which we saw as a PIV on the 931 00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:38,040 scope 932 00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:40,260 he was coming in for his landing and the 933 00:39:44,329 --> 00:39:41,940 tower scope reported the same radar 934 00:39:45,170 --> 00:39:44,339 sighting the light disappeared on our 935 00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:45,180 scope 936 00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:48,000 and from his view about four miles 937 00:39:58,190 --> 00:39:55,310 nobody talks about this part 938 00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:01,010 that the radar operator 939 00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:04,320 was able to match their blips to visual 940 00:40:13,069 --> 00:40:11,329 but yet safer goes out on a press 941 00:40:14,990 --> 00:40:13,079 conference it's a temperature inversions 942 00:40:19,849 --> 00:40:15,000 and we're dealing with the same very 943 00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:21,650 during the whole period of observation 944 00:40:25,370 --> 00:40:23,820 we could detect no pattern to the 945 00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:25,380 movement of these objects however they 946 00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:27,240 did seem to become most active around 947 00:40:31,849 --> 00:40:29,880 the planes we saw on the scope 948 00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:31,859 we did not see the Pips in any 949 00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:34,740 recognizable formation at any time 950 00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:37,260 the radar we were using does not show 951 00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:40,140 altitude and is faintly possible 952 00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:42,420 that the objects could have been in a 953 00:40:46,670 --> 00:40:44,520 vertical formation without are 954 00:40:49,790 --> 00:40:46,680 recognizing it 955 00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,800 at one time toward Daybreak we counted 956 00:40:53,870 --> 00:40:51,599 10 objects over Andrew's field just 957 00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:53,880 outside of Washington we cited seven 958 00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:55,859 originally most of the time we could 959 00:40:59,870 --> 00:40:57,839 count eight of them 960 00:41:01,550 --> 00:40:59,880 the only recognizable Behavior pattern 961 00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:01,560 which occurred to me from watching the 962 00:41:10,310 --> 00:41:04,200 Pips was that they acted like a bunch of 963 00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:13,250 it was Helter Skelter as if directed by 964 00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:15,960 some innate curiosity 965 00:41:20,569 --> 00:41:17,880 at times they moved as a group or 966 00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,579 cluster other times as individuals over 967 00:41:24,829 --> 00:41:23,040 widely scattered areas 968 00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:24,839 other than some information in 969 00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:26,820 connection with our Communications with 970 00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:29,520 the Air Force which is classified the 971 00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:31,260 above is a complete factual description 972 00:41:36,109 --> 00:41:33,420 of the important events which took place 973 00:41:38,270 --> 00:41:36,119 during those six hours these facts I 974 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:38,280 have set forth in my official report to 975 00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:41,040 CAA 976 00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:43,200 speaking personally 977 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,380 and not officially for CAA 978 00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:48,000 I would like to make these additional 979 00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:50,040 comments 980 00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:54,359 radar is strictly an Electronics device 981 00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:56,940 it has no imagination 982 00:42:02,690 --> 00:41:59,760 it reports only what it sees 983 00:42:06,650 --> 00:42:02,700 the equipment was imperfect operating 984 00:42:11,569 --> 00:42:09,589 there is no other conclusion I can reach 985 00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,579 but then for six hours on the morning of 986 00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:13,520 July 20 there were at least 10 987 00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:15,960 unidentifiable objects moving above 988 00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:17,400 Washington 989 00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:20,400 they were not ordinary aircraft 990 00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:22,680 I could tell that by their movement on 991 00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:24,119 the scope 992 00:42:29,329 --> 00:42:26,700 I can safely deduce that they performed 993 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,339 at gyrations which no known aircraft 994 00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:31,200 could perform 995 00:42:35,210 --> 00:42:33,060 by this 996 00:42:37,609 --> 00:42:35,220 I mean that our scope showed that they 997 00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:37,619 could make right angled turns 998 00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:41,339 and complete reversals of flight 999 00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:43,560 nor in my opinion could any natural 1000 00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:45,680 phenomena such as shooting stars 1001 00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:47,940 electrical disturbances or clouds 1002 00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:50,520 account for these spots on our radar 1003 00:42:56,569 --> 00:42:53,400 exactly what they are I don't know 1004 00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:56,579 you now know as much about them as I do 1005 00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,480 and your guess is as good as mine 1006 00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,920 oh 1007 00:43:07,609 --> 00:43:03,839 wow 1008 00:43:13,490 --> 00:43:10,010 pretty cool 1009 00:43:19,490 --> 00:43:16,609 got a hold of the original 1010 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:21,770 of the radar 1011 00:43:26,930 --> 00:43:24,720 at Washington National Airport and I had 1012 00:43:29,809 --> 00:43:26,940 no idea this existed I don't know if 1013 00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:29,819 anybody else does they probably do 1014 00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:35,930 and I think that's pretty cool 1015 00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:38,400 the radar control room of the CAA at 1016 00:43:42,770 --> 00:43:40,200 Washington National Airport tracks range 1017 00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:42,780 of objects on the large scope 1018 00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:44,520 and Center foreground 1019 00:43:49,309 --> 00:43:46,980 it shows position of aircraft within a 1020 00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:49,319 radius of 70 miles the picture below is 1021 00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:52,200 what CAA traffic controller saw mystery 1022 00:43:55,069 --> 00:43:54,000 blips were tracked from Midnight until 1023 00:43:58,730 --> 00:43:55,079 dawn 1024 00:44:04,010 --> 00:44:02,390 so these blips 1025 00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:04,020 you can see the arrows to them they say 1026 00:44:09,650 --> 00:44:07,140 aircraft blips but that's what the UFO 1027 00:44:13,970 --> 00:44:09,660 blips actually are 1028 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,980 so so not only did we have uh 1029 00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:15,599 radar 1030 00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:18,900 and we also have visual 1031 00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:21,359 and we also have physical evidence of 1032 00:44:29,809 --> 00:44:25,800 the radar picture the radar photograph 1033 00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:29,819 in 19 freaking 52. 1034 00:44:37,609 --> 00:44:33,119 here we are 2023 1035 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:40,490 and then we have somebody else radar 1036 00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:42,240 experts Challenger Air Force saucer 1037 00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:44,220 Theory the nice sightings only light 1038 00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:46,440 Reflections so if you watch the show we 1039 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:49,920 actually did like a whole thing on 1040 00:44:53,089 --> 00:44:50,520 um 1041 00:44:54,829 --> 00:44:53,099 anomalous propagation and that's prop 1042 00:44:57,770 --> 00:44:54,839 basically what temperature inversions 1043 00:45:00,770 --> 00:44:57,780 you know are so temperature inversion 1044 00:45:02,569 --> 00:45:00,780 causes anomalous propagation 1045 00:45:04,370 --> 00:45:02,579 so we have some radar experts who 1046 00:45:06,050 --> 00:45:04,380 challenge the Air Force saucer Theory 1047 00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:06,060 the nice sightings only light 1048 00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:07,440 reflections 1049 00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:09,420 radar experts and weather scientists 1050 00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,980 today challenge the Air Force theory 1051 00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:12,960 that flag saucers are ground objects 1052 00:45:16,430 --> 00:45:14,579 reflected in the sky under freak 1053 00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:16,440 atmospheric conditions 1054 00:45:20,089 --> 00:45:18,180 radar Crews at Washington National 1055 00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:20,099 Airport where mysterious blips have been 1056 00:45:23,630 --> 00:45:21,599 tracked three times in the last two 1057 00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:23,640 weeks maintain that they have recorded 1058 00:45:27,950 --> 00:45:25,560 unknown objects twisting in a weird 1059 00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:27,960 pattern and not light Reflections as the 1060 00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:29,640 Air Force suggested 1061 00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:32,099 U.S weather bureau while conceding that 1062 00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:34,200 a temperature inversion has existed 1063 00:45:39,069 --> 00:45:36,660 during the current hot spell took issue 1064 00:45:42,829 --> 00:45:39,079 with the theory expounded by General 1065 00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:42,839 John a Sanford air intelligence Chief a 1066 00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:44,520 temperature inversion is a layer of warm 1067 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,280 air above cold air Sanford suggested 1068 00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:49,440 that under such conditions an auto 1069 00:45:55,010 --> 00:45:52,020 headlight or airport beam could be 1070 00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:55,020 reflected in the sky as a flying saucer 1071 00:45:59,809 --> 00:45:57,540 a weather bureau official said however 1072 00:46:02,270 --> 00:45:59,819 that Reflections due to such an 1073 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:02,280 inversion ordinarily would appear on a 1074 00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,040 radar screen as a steady line 1075 00:46:10,730 --> 00:46:07,680 rather than as a single object 1076 00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,740 such as we're cited on the airport radar 1077 00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:12,480 scope 1078 00:46:16,970 --> 00:46:15,300 other saucer developments included the 1079 00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:16,980 Air Force seeking an unshakable 1080 00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,859 explanation of the mysterious dist Rush 1081 00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,079 preparations to scan the skies with a 1082 00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:24,480 battery of 200 astronomer type cameras 1083 00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:26,520 and powerful telescopes 1084 00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:28,859 the Reverend Francis Hayden director of 1085 00:46:33,470 --> 00:46:31,040 The Georgetown University 1086 00:46:35,809 --> 00:46:33,480 Observatory predicted that these saucer 1087 00:46:37,609 --> 00:46:35,819 season will reach a climax August 12th 1088 00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:37,619 the probable time of the annual 1089 00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:40,079 brilliant perside shower when thousands 1090 00:46:45,290 --> 00:46:42,300 of shooting stars filled the sky as the 1091 00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,300 Earth and is orbit around the Sun Passes 1092 00:46:50,510 --> 00:46:47,040 their disrupted garment 1093 00:46:53,930 --> 00:46:50,520 uh just so you know there was no busier 1094 00:46:57,770 --> 00:46:53,940 saucer time than July 1952. 1095 00:47:00,290 --> 00:46:57,780 so the Reverend was wrong 1096 00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:00,300 the Air Force was reported checking 1097 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,420 photographs taken by Coast Guard Coast 1098 00:47:08,030 --> 00:47:05,520 Guardsmen at Salem Massachusetts last 1099 00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:08,040 Saturday purportedly showing five flying 1100 00:47:11,950 --> 00:47:10,079 saucers moving information two 1101 00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,960 Philadelphia scientists 1102 00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:14,400 agreed with the Air Force explanation of 1103 00:47:18,109 --> 00:47:16,440 the mystery visitors and blamed weird 1104 00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:18,119 Reflections resulting from the hot 1105 00:47:22,430 --> 00:47:20,460 weather jet fighter Interceptor violates 1106 00:47:24,890 --> 00:47:22,440 at bases throughout the country remain 1107 00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,900 on a 24-hour alert ready to take off in 1108 00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:26,880 Hot Pursuit of any saucer reported in 1109 00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:29,460 their locality the Navy confirmed that 1110 00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:33,240 on May 11 1943 mysterious objects cited 1111 00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:36,420 by radar were erroneously identified and 1112 00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:39,960 enemy ships touching off a sailboat of 1113 00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:42,240 scores of rounds of ammunition fired in 1114 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,420 a non-existent enemy off Alaska the Navy 1115 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,520 said the air resulted from atmospheric 1116 00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,440 reflection like that which sometimes 1117 00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:52,079 make freak makes freak television 1118 00:47:56,990 --> 00:47:54,780 reception possible 1119 00:47:59,569 --> 00:47:57,000 that's interesting you know because if 1120 00:48:01,370 --> 00:47:59,579 that's the case if that really happened 1121 00:48:04,609 --> 00:48:01,380 that the Navy was fighting temperature 1122 00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:04,619 inversions on their radar that in 1943 1123 00:48:11,150 --> 00:48:08,940 that even proves more that by 1952 1124 00:48:13,550 --> 00:48:11,160 these radar Observers 1125 00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:13,560 especially commercial 1126 00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:15,240 and Military 1127 00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,540 would be trained up on this they 1128 00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:20,640 wouldn't have the Navy fighting 1129 00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:22,380 temperature inversions and then you know 1130 00:48:26,270 --> 00:48:24,480 just not look into it and just be like 1131 00:48:28,430 --> 00:48:26,280 oh yeah that was no big deal we're not 1132 00:48:31,069 --> 00:48:28,440 going to train anybody you know to look 1133 00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:31,079 for those inversions and just in case 1134 00:48:40,130 --> 00:48:38,089 that's why they're full of crap 1135 00:48:42,530 --> 00:48:40,140 because they would do that they would 1136 00:48:45,890 --> 00:48:42,540 train their observers especially their 1137 00:48:49,069 --> 00:48:45,900 military radar operators 1138 00:48:52,609 --> 00:48:49,079 if something like that was real 1139 00:48:53,809 --> 00:48:52,619 so I wonder what really happened in 1943 1140 00:48:57,050 --> 00:48:53,819 was it 1141 00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:57,060 temperature inversions or 1142 00:49:03,050 --> 00:49:00,240 did the Navy have a battle with UFOs in 1143 00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:06,349 that would be very interesting 1144 00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:07,980 we'll have to look further into that and 1145 00:49:16,609 --> 00:49:14,870 that was you know Foo Fighter time so 1146 00:49:19,490 --> 00:49:16,619 this is you know the same thing the the 1147 00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:19,500 radar picture I just wanted to 1148 00:49:22,910 --> 00:49:21,540 make it a little bigger for you guys so 1149 00:49:25,309 --> 00:49:22,920 you could see it not that you can make 1150 00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:25,319 anything of it you know I'm not a radar 1151 00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:27,480 expert so I can't really 1152 00:49:32,510 --> 00:49:29,280 but it does show that something was 1153 00:49:37,490 --> 00:49:35,030 and people were confused obviously and 1154 00:49:40,370 --> 00:49:37,500 then this radar picture is just crazy I 1155 00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,380 can't believe this one didn't get famous 1156 00:49:47,930 --> 00:49:42,720 here's a radar picture with blue flag 1157 00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:50,690 and nobody cares what the heck 1158 00:49:56,349 --> 00:49:52,640 that is just crazy to me 1159 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,359 [Laughter] 1160 00:50:02,210 --> 00:49:59,040 oh it's awesome like pulling little 1161 00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:02,220 jokes like that or whatever because 1162 00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:04,800 I don't know if anyone's laughing 1163 00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:06,839 you know or if I'm just laughing at 1164 00:50:12,589 --> 00:50:08,940 myself so yeah I mean all you guys could 1165 00:50:14,510 --> 00:50:12,599 be like whatever dude stop 1166 00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:14,520 worry you could be laughing like crazy 1167 00:50:26,450 --> 00:50:24,230 but you know 1168 00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:26,460 hopefully it will happen you know text 1169 00:50:29,569 --> 00:50:27,900 me if you were laughing or something put 1170 00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:29,579 something in the chat you know make me 1171 00:50:33,770 --> 00:50:31,140 feel a little better 1172 00:50:40,010 --> 00:50:33,780 not so alone in my corniness and dad 1173 00:50:44,690 --> 00:50:43,069 okay so 1952 like we said 1174 00:50:48,970 --> 00:50:44,700 um 1175 00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:48,980 July 1952 biggest year in the business 1176 00:50:53,690 --> 00:50:51,660 right and I'm not going to go through 1177 00:50:57,770 --> 00:50:53,700 all these reports but I just put these 1178 00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,780 together just so you could see how many 1179 00:51:02,210 --> 00:51:00,720 actual sightings there were in July 1952 1180 00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:02,220 look at all those 1181 00:51:07,329 --> 00:51:05,160 that's a lot 1182 00:51:11,329 --> 00:51:07,339 it's a lot of sightings 1183 00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:11,339 and we just touched on one the DC One 1184 00:51:16,910 --> 00:51:14,760 but trust me they were all over and this 1185 00:51:18,589 --> 00:51:16,920 next one I thought was extremely 1186 00:51:20,569 --> 00:51:18,599 interesting and I'm only going to cover 1187 00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:20,579 this one and I'm not covering this one 1188 00:51:23,870 --> 00:51:22,200 because it's like the best one or 1189 00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:23,880 anything I just think it's interesting 1190 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:27,359 because on this date July uh 31st or 1191 00:51:32,510 --> 00:51:30,240 July 29th or 30th around there even the 1192 00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,520 27th you know whatever there were so 1193 00:51:36,770 --> 00:51:34,319 many sightings on the same day all over 1194 00:51:38,930 --> 00:51:36,780 the place by military people 1195 00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:38,940 seeing multiple objects doing crazy 1196 00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:42,000 things civilians everybody 1197 00:51:46,010 --> 00:51:44,040 right 1198 00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,020 so this story is interesting to me 1199 00:51:49,970 --> 00:51:48,240 because I like to look for the ones that 1200 00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:49,980 are just a little bit different than the 1201 00:51:56,510 --> 00:51:53,040 other sightings and this one was 1202 00:51:58,910 --> 00:51:56,520 um it got some publicity which 1203 00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,920 especially makes this better because I 1204 00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,480 have more information that I can pull 1205 00:52:04,849 --> 00:52:02,640 from you know more interviews and such 1206 00:52:08,270 --> 00:52:04,859 so that's another reason I wanted to 1207 00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:08,280 cover this one but has to do with this 1208 00:52:15,069 --> 00:52:11,839 Marine he was a private 1209 00:52:19,370 --> 00:52:15,079 uh who photographed 1210 00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:19,380 saucers on July 29th 1952 1211 00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:21,720 this is his statement after hearing talk 1212 00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:24,420 with flank saucers his name is uh Ralph 1213 00:52:32,329 --> 00:52:30,410 private Ralph C Meyer after hearing talk 1214 00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:32,339 of flying saucers for the past two years 1215 00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:33,660 or more 1216 00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:35,760 and then hearing that a so-called saucer 1217 00:52:42,530 --> 00:52:37,980 had been seen over Miami Beach by Mr 1218 00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:42,540 blank the 28th of July 1952. I decided 1219 00:52:47,690 --> 00:52:45,300 to take home a camera 1220 00:52:50,089 --> 00:52:47,700 and there just might be more excitement 1221 00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:50,099 the navy camera as soon Kodak was 1222 00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:51,300 checked out 1223 00:52:56,089 --> 00:52:54,059 through my NCO in charge I was sitting 1224 00:53:00,109 --> 00:52:56,099 in my home and turned on my TV and heard 1225 00:53:02,089 --> 00:53:00,119 more talk of flying saucers by wtvj 1226 00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,099 then and there I decided to go over and 1227 00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,839 see Mr blank and actually talk to 1228 00:53:07,609 --> 00:53:05,520 someone who had seen one 1229 00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:07,619 I had a hunch 1230 00:53:19,549 --> 00:53:09,180 that 1231 00:53:21,710 --> 00:53:19,559 it might reappear just as those saucers 1232 00:53:24,109 --> 00:53:21,720 reappeared in Washington DC 1233 00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:24,119 I took my wife blank blank over to Miami 1234 00:53:29,390 --> 00:53:27,000 Beach oops 1235 00:53:31,609 --> 00:53:29,400 I don't know why I went backwards 1236 00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:31,619 or Miami Beach we began to look for Mr 1237 00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:34,020 blank we finally located him and I got 1238 00:53:37,790 --> 00:53:35,760 my story from him the time was about 1239 00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:37,800 nine o'clock after hearing a story I was 1240 00:53:43,490 --> 00:53:41,460 very skeptical skeptical skeptical it 1241 00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:43,500 seemed rather fantastic I asked blank if 1242 00:53:47,569 --> 00:53:46,800 he would mind if we went to the back of 1243 00:53:51,049 --> 00:53:47,579 his 1244 00:53:52,910 --> 00:53:51,059 uh blank and wait uh Mr blank was 1245 00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:52,920 visiting Mr blank I identified myself 1246 00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:56,520 and told them I had a hunch 1247 00:54:01,309 --> 00:53:58,920 his permission was granted this was 1248 00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:01,319 nearly 100 I was working on it there was 1249 00:54:07,250 --> 00:54:04,319 no official business involved so he's 1250 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,260 trying to get a camera because he thinks 1251 00:54:11,809 --> 00:54:09,359 he's going to see a UFO based off of his 1252 00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,819 intuition which we actually hear of that 1253 00:54:16,670 --> 00:54:13,680 before 1254 00:54:18,829 --> 00:54:16,680 um which is interesting I've finally was 1255 00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:18,839 seated in Mr Blake's patio from 9 10 to 1256 00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,760 9 30. nothing happened and I made a 1257 00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:22,800 little joke out of it said no flag 1258 00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,400 saucer man yet at 9 35 it was far from a 1259 00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,079 joke the object appeared it was 1260 00:54:33,049 --> 00:54:30,720 startling the object or saucer was a 1261 00:54:34,849 --> 00:54:33,059 bright orange dish shaped I was not the 1262 00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,859 first one to see it people on the West 1263 00:54:40,130 --> 00:54:36,839 Bank of the river said that there it is 1264 00:54:42,109 --> 00:54:40,140 again immediately I jumped on my feet 1265 00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,119 and screamed to them is there anything 1266 00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:44,640 in the sky they said yes I didn't see it 1267 00:54:49,970 --> 00:54:48,240 immediately an apartment was in my view 1268 00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:49,980 I stepped back 1269 00:54:58,190 --> 00:54:55,440 about 15 feet and saw it the object was 1270 00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,200 moving from east to west it was that 1271 00:55:02,450 --> 00:54:59,760 tremendous altitude I couldn't 1272 00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:02,460 approximate approximate because there 1273 00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:04,800 were no clouds to give my approximation 1274 00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:07,020 but it was the size of a pinhead 1275 00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:10,260 compared to a half dollar piece 1276 00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,440 after about 15 to 20 seconds of being 1277 00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,599 startled I began shooting movies of the 1278 00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,000 object it was so small through my 1279 00:55:21,710 --> 00:55:19,680 Rangefinder that I could hardly see it 1280 00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:21,720 knowing I might be the only person on 1281 00:55:27,710 --> 00:55:24,240 Earth to get Motion Pictures of this I 1282 00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:27,720 began shooting by approximating its 1283 00:55:32,450 --> 00:55:30,540 location in my naked eye the object 1284 00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:32,460 moved across the Horizon on a perfectly 1285 00:55:37,549 --> 00:55:35,040 straight course a tremendous speed that 1286 00:55:40,730 --> 00:55:37,559 took 40 feet of film approximately 12 1287 00:55:43,609 --> 00:55:40,740 frames I have an image the photographs 1288 00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,619 show change in shape and surface I was 1289 00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:45,599 surprised that it wasn't visible when it 1290 00:55:50,329 --> 00:55:48,000 flew over only visible on the actual 1291 00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:50,339 film it was so much more brilliant than 1292 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,589 foreign 1293 00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:01,309 guy 1294 00:56:06,049 --> 00:56:04,490 taking photos of flying freaking saucers 1295 00:56:09,049 --> 00:56:06,059 man 1296 00:56:10,670 --> 00:56:09,059 let's see what he's got 1297 00:56:14,510 --> 00:56:10,680 so that was to the Air Force and the 1298 00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:14,520 investigator the Air Force actually well 1299 00:56:17,569 --> 00:56:15,839 someone in the Air Force was actually 1300 00:56:19,010 --> 00:56:17,579 upset that there wasn't an explanation 1301 00:56:20,569 --> 00:56:19,020 for this sighting they thought there was 1302 00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:20,579 plenty of information out there to 1303 00:56:24,829 --> 00:56:22,740 actually have an explanation so they 1304 00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:24,839 decided to reevaluate the setting on 1305 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:27,180 July 29 1952. 1306 00:56:31,609 --> 00:56:29,760 the following are those points in data 1307 00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:31,619 of significance which lead to a final 1308 00:56:34,750 --> 00:56:33,359 conclusion this isn't all of them these 1309 00:56:37,069 --> 00:56:34,760 are just the ones I pulled out 1310 00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:37,079 psychological aspects strange part of 1311 00:56:42,349 --> 00:56:39,000 the story is from blank's own statement 1312 00:56:44,510 --> 00:56:42,359 uh that I had a hunch I would see a 1313 00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,520 saucer also I went to a Mr blank's 1314 00:56:49,130 --> 00:56:46,559 apartment to wait on the possibility 1315 00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:49,140 that a saucer may appear again as did in 1316 00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:50,660 the Washington case this statement 1317 00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:52,980 definitely establishes at least 1318 00:56:58,809 --> 00:56:56,640 anticipation or confidence on Ralph's 1319 00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:58,819 part that a saucer would appear for him 1320 00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:01,680 uh strangle Captain Gregory's comment 1321 00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:04,440 saucers just don't appear just because 1322 00:57:09,530 --> 00:57:07,200 you wish one to be there I don't know 1323 00:57:10,609 --> 00:57:09,540 sometimes they do ever heard of ce5 man 1324 00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,619 come on 1325 00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:12,720 also his statement I began shooting 1326 00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:14,700 pictures because I might be the only 1327 00:57:19,730 --> 00:57:16,440 person on Earth to get a motion picture 1328 00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:19,740 of this comment a question arises was 1329 00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,319 this an unconscious admission to the 1330 00:57:26,270 --> 00:57:24,480 integrator interviewing him that he was 1331 00:57:28,430 --> 00:57:26,280 striving towards the sun can you believe 1332 00:57:30,349 --> 00:57:28,440 this they're just like looking for any 1333 00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,359 excuse to discredit this guy it's 1334 00:57:33,890 --> 00:57:32,400 unbelievable conclusion if we discount 1335 00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:33,900 the statement that he observed the 1336 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:35,760 object for three and a half minutes if 1337 00:57:41,710 --> 00:57:38,400 we did if we discount what we want to 1338 00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:41,720 Discount to make our Theory work then 1339 00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:44,520 uh and it's been proven by psychological 1340 00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:46,140 tests that most people under stress and 1341 00:57:54,589 --> 00:57:52,609 uh then the object on the basis of other 1342 00:57:56,930 --> 00:57:54,599 correlated and supported date given 1343 00:58:00,170 --> 00:57:56,940 above was possibly a meteor 1344 00:58:02,569 --> 00:58:00,180 he's not photographing a meteor okay uh 1345 00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,579 Colonel Johnson this is submitted in the 1346 00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,559 event that the matter which we discussed 1347 00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,960 late Thursday afternoon may come to a 1348 00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:08,880 head or result in a potential 1349 00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:12,480 controversy public relations wise 1350 00:58:17,930 --> 00:58:15,839 as far as if the Air Force is concerned 1351 00:58:20,270 --> 00:58:17,940 it is offered for whatever action or use 1352 00:58:21,710 --> 00:58:20,280 you may deem necessary no action or 1353 00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:21,720 information will be released without 1354 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,540 specific approval or authority from you 1355 00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:26,400 regarding this matter 1356 00:58:34,790 --> 00:58:28,980 incredible 1357 00:58:36,349 --> 00:58:34,800 and here's the newspaper report Maureen 1358 00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:36,359 here snaps desk a strange orange 1359 00:58:41,210 --> 00:58:38,460 yellowish object traveling at more than 1360 00:58:42,650 --> 00:58:41,220 2 000 miles per hour it was photographed 1361 00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:42,660 last night by a marine cameraman 1362 00:58:47,930 --> 00:58:44,880 watching from a Miami Beach home okay 1363 00:58:49,849 --> 00:58:47,940 first of all just to be fair I don't 1364 00:58:51,530 --> 00:58:49,859 know how he would know it's going 2 000 1365 00:58:56,089 --> 00:58:51,540 miles per hour 1366 00:58:59,150 --> 00:58:56,099 so maybe he did some uh my homemade you 1367 00:59:01,250 --> 00:58:59,160 know figuring out triangulation whatever 1368 00:59:04,190 --> 00:59:01,260 you got to do but um 1369 00:59:07,250 --> 00:59:04,200 seems pretty hard for me to believe that 1370 00:59:09,530 --> 00:59:07,260 you would know that but 40 40 feet of 1371 00:59:11,210 --> 00:59:09,540 film were taken of the object as it 1372 00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:11,220 flashed across the sky at the Marine 1373 00:59:17,150 --> 00:59:14,160 reported however however showed any 1374 00:59:19,010 --> 00:59:17,160 image only eight frames of the film the 1375 00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,020 object which observers said they saw for 1376 00:59:23,930 --> 00:59:21,359 about 3 minutes and 30 seconds was a 1377 00:59:25,010 --> 00:59:23,940 photographed around 9 35 PM by rough 1378 00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:25,020 Mayer 1379 00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:30,950 officials at the Marine Corps Air 1380 00:59:35,809 --> 00:59:33,420 Station in apalaka released the pictures 1381 00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:35,819 and information at 2PM today without 1382 00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:37,440 comment 1383 00:59:41,630 --> 00:59:39,420 the films were shot from the Patty of 1384 00:59:43,789 --> 00:59:41,640 the home of Herman Stern 1385 00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:43,799 and his wife two days ago reported 1386 00:59:47,630 --> 00:59:45,599 spotting flank saucers in the sky above 1387 00:59:49,370 --> 00:59:47,640 the residence the film showed a 1388 00:59:51,289 --> 00:59:49,380 bowl-shaped image with a projection on 1389 00:59:53,089 --> 00:59:51,299 top the object looked like a ball of 1390 00:59:55,250 --> 00:59:53,099 fire it was not clear enough however to 1391 00:59:58,730 --> 00:59:55,260 be diagnosed as a flying saucer or a 1392 01:00:01,549 --> 00:59:58,740 meteor mayor said what he saw in the sky 1393 01:00:03,230 --> 01:00:01,559 was crystal clear and that as fast as it 1394 01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:03,240 was traveling 1395 01:00:07,789 --> 01:00:06,000 he noted detail in the object or 1396 01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:07,799 phenomenon 1397 01:00:13,789 --> 01:00:10,020 the leatherneck 1398 01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:13,799 said he went to the home of the Stearns 1399 01:00:18,589 --> 01:00:16,559 on a hunch he was not acting officially 1400 01:00:19,849 --> 01:00:18,599 for the Marines but on his own 1401 01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:19,859 initiative 1402 01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:22,020 he checked out the 16 millimeter camera 1403 01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:24,720 from the MCAS yesterday afternoon he had 1404 01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:26,520 requested permission of the Stearns to 1405 01:00:31,549 --> 01:00:29,280 watch this guy from their home along 1406 01:00:36,410 --> 01:00:31,559 uh with his wife Eleanor and a friend 1407 01:00:38,270 --> 01:00:36,420 there arrived at Stern home about 905 pm 1408 01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:38,280 about 9 30 p.m they heard neighbors 1409 01:00:42,530 --> 01:00:40,799 shout look there in the sky for several 1410 01:00:44,450 --> 01:00:42,540 seconds mayor recalled we saw nothing 1411 01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:44,460 that an orangish yellowish-shaped object 1412 01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:46,440 appeared I pulled out my camera and shot 1413 01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:48,960 about 40 feet of film after more than 1414 01:00:53,150 --> 01:00:50,640 three minutes the object disappeared 1415 01:00:55,069 --> 01:00:53,160 mayor said his wife and the friend saw 1416 01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,079 the object along the with the other 1417 01:00:59,450 --> 01:00:57,359 residents in the area the Marine then 1418 01:01:02,569 --> 01:00:59,460 called the officer of the day at abalaka 1419 01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:02,579 and he and a public officer Sergeant 1420 01:01:06,049 --> 01:01:04,260 went to the stern house and obtained the 1421 01:01:07,849 --> 01:01:06,059 film Marine officials at the air station 1422 01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:07,859 had no comment to make on the photos 1423 01:01:12,890 --> 01:01:10,079 they stressed the fact that mayor was 1424 01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:12,900 acting in a non-official capacity all we 1425 01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:16,020 did was process the film one officer 1426 01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:21,890 all we did was process the film no way 1427 01:01:25,490 --> 01:01:23,880 man if you process it that means you'd 1428 01:01:27,770 --> 01:01:25,500 think that they're aliens 1429 01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:27,780 the Marine 22 year old private Ralph 1430 01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:29,520 Cleveland claims he recorded the object 1431 01:01:34,490 --> 01:01:32,160 on 16 millimeter film Tuesday night 1432 01:01:35,930 --> 01:01:34,500 mayor said the crystal clear object was 1433 01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:35,940 witnessed by himself his wife and 1434 01:01:40,250 --> 01:01:38,160 another couple three and a half minutes 1435 01:01:42,890 --> 01:01:40,260 I already know this 1436 01:01:43,849 --> 01:01:42,900 is a stupid slide I shouldn't even made 1437 01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:43,859 it 1438 01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:48,049 okay 1439 01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:52,079 this is a saucer four views of the 1440 01:01:55,970 --> 01:01:53,760 Flying Saucer that flashed over Miami 1441 01:01:59,150 --> 01:01:55,980 Beach last night are reproduced from the 1442 01:02:01,309 --> 01:01:59,160 film taken by the marine marine private 1443 01:02:02,809 --> 01:02:01,319 mayor the film was released without 1444 01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:02,819 comment by Third Marine Air Wing 1445 01:02:07,309 --> 01:02:05,040 officials Miami daily news artist did 1446 01:02:09,410 --> 01:02:07,319 not retouch the sauce itself which loses 1447 01:02:11,089 --> 01:02:09,420 some detail and reproduction but did 1448 01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:11,099 retouch scratches on the film and 1449 01:02:15,289 --> 01:02:12,960 designated the object with arrows the 1450 01:02:17,329 --> 01:02:15,299 photo shot the orange yellowish object 1451 01:02:19,370 --> 01:02:17,339 was Bull shaped with projection on top 1452 01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:19,380 it speedily vanished after being watched 1453 01:02:23,089 --> 01:02:21,599 for more than three minutes and it's too 1454 01:02:26,990 --> 01:02:23,099 bad that we only have a black and white 1455 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,309 here is your ink plot 1456 01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:32,450 but 1457 01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:34,920 you know what if 1458 01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:37,200 if all these sightings going on July 1459 01:02:43,010 --> 01:02:40,559 1952 like my question is what if this 1460 01:02:45,890 --> 01:02:43,020 was whatever was going on 1461 01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:45,900 what if it is a sauce we have no idea 1462 01:02:52,370 --> 01:02:51,049 but you just 1463 01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:52,380 don't 1464 01:03:03,530 --> 01:02:58,190 but that would be cool 1465 01:03:07,069 --> 01:03:05,390 here's just another picture this is kind 1466 01:03:10,510 --> 01:03:07,079 of how it showed up in the paper with uh 1467 01:03:13,130 --> 01:03:10,520 the four objects together like this 1468 01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:13,140 I love these old newspaper reports man 1469 01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:19,250 reporting 1470 01:03:25,069 --> 01:03:23,099 on saucers and stuff 1471 01:03:28,609 --> 01:03:25,079 back in the day and they would be on the 1472 01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:28,619 front page sometimes of the news 1473 01:03:31,549 --> 01:03:30,240 like some of these stories were Front 1474 01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:31,559 Page News 1475 01:03:38,329 --> 01:03:34,740 we haven't seen that 1476 01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:38,339 in a long long time 1477 01:03:43,069 --> 01:03:40,319 so you know when we talk about kind of 1478 01:03:45,530 --> 01:03:43,079 like progress and stuff with UFOs and 1479 01:03:49,849 --> 01:03:45,540 Congress and all that there are these 1480 01:03:52,130 --> 01:03:49,859 parts of the UFO story that are making 1481 01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:52,140 progress as far as Congress goes and the 1482 01:03:57,950 --> 01:03:54,660 arrow and all that blah blah even if it 1483 01:04:01,069 --> 01:03:57,960 fails it happened and it was enacted 1484 01:04:04,250 --> 01:04:01,079 into law by Congress and that's a plus 1485 01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:04,260 but there's also some backwards emotions 1486 01:04:07,789 --> 01:04:06,240 in the community as well one of which is 1487 01:04:10,370 --> 01:04:07,799 the media 1488 01:04:12,650 --> 01:04:10,380 like I said some of these reports and 1489 01:04:14,210 --> 01:04:12,660 not even just the the DC one which 1490 01:04:15,470 --> 01:04:14,220 obviously would be from page news but 1491 01:04:18,530 --> 01:04:15,480 there are other settings as well 1492 01:04:20,990 --> 01:04:18,540 throughout those years that and Other 1493 01:04:23,809 --> 01:04:21,000 Stories that made Front Page News 1494 01:04:25,730 --> 01:04:23,819 and that just doesn't happen anymore 1495 01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:25,740 um so there's there's definitely steps 1496 01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:34,430 um I just think it's important to keep 1497 01:04:38,450 --> 01:04:36,540 that in mind 1498 01:04:40,190 --> 01:04:38,460 who cares what I think is important 1499 01:04:41,630 --> 01:04:40,200 honestly 1500 01:04:44,930 --> 01:04:41,640 but 1501 01:04:48,289 --> 01:04:44,940 case or someone that does 1502 01:04:55,370 --> 01:04:52,309 I have something special that we can do 1503 01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:55,380 you might know what I'm talking about 1504 01:05:04,010 --> 01:04:58,079 you might not 1505 01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:06,470 you do orbashnos 1506 01:05:16,609 --> 01:05:09,119 and I made a new little clip for it what 1507 01:05:20,930 --> 01:05:18,770 that's right it's their segment what the 1508 01:05:23,390 --> 01:05:20,940 heck is that where we watch videos this 1509 01:05:25,370 --> 01:05:23,400 one is a little bit longer 1510 01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:25,380 all right 1511 01:05:27,950 --> 01:05:25,920 um 1512 01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:27,960 but it's it's really interesting 1513 01:05:31,250 --> 01:05:30,240 um this guy Project Unity he's on 1514 01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:31,260 Twitter 1515 01:05:35,450 --> 01:05:33,359 um he posted this video he said someone 1516 01:05:37,490 --> 01:05:35,460 uh anonymous 1517 01:05:39,470 --> 01:05:37,500 uh gave it to him or showed him or 1518 01:05:42,770 --> 01:05:39,480 whatever so they don't want to be known 1519 01:05:46,010 --> 01:05:42,780 because of blowback which I don't really 1520 01:05:47,930 --> 01:05:46,020 get it it's a cool video 1521 01:05:50,990 --> 01:05:47,940 um you know there's no blowback if you 1522 01:05:53,210 --> 01:05:51,000 don't try to pretend what things are you 1523 01:05:56,030 --> 01:05:53,220 know there's blowback when you start 1524 01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:56,040 saying things like 1525 01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:58,319 that that you don't have proof for like 1526 01:06:04,010 --> 01:06:01,200 if you go to work your day job needs to 1527 01:06:06,349 --> 01:06:04,020 start telling your co-workers aliens are 1528 01:06:07,789 --> 01:06:06,359 walking Among Us man Bob Bigelow sitting 1529 01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:07,799 on 60 Minutes 1530 01:06:11,809 --> 01:06:09,480 you know what are you gonna do Post 1531 01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:11,819 disclosure what do you know if you start 1532 01:06:15,650 --> 01:06:13,980 talking like that at work then there may 1533 01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,660 be some blowback 1534 01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:18,000 but if you're just showing a video that 1535 01:06:21,049 --> 01:06:19,680 looks pretty cool and you're like I 1536 01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:21,059 don't know what it is but I thought it 1537 01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:24,960 was neat there's no reason for anyone to 1538 01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:28,799 have blowback and I really don't buy it 1539 01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:34,750 an explanation for it that is 1540 01:06:39,950 --> 01:06:37,680 Supernatural or out of this world with 1541 01:06:44,089 --> 01:06:39,960 confidence 1542 01:06:46,190 --> 01:06:44,099 conviction then they'd probably blowback 1543 01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:46,200 but anyways that was along my monologue 1544 01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:48,900 for this so and there's no sound to it 1545 01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:52,380 but luckily for you I make music 1546 01:07:00,160 --> 01:06:54,720 I mean a little soundtrack for it 1547 01:07:45,170 --> 01:07:03,410 [Music] 1548 01:08:01,820 --> 01:07:47,230 foreign 1549 01:08:41,689 --> 01:08:18,849 [Music] 1550 01:08:52,730 --> 01:08:43,530 foreign 1551 01:08:56,660 --> 01:08:54,769 [Music] 1552 01:09:42,280 --> 01:08:56,670 foreign 1553 01:10:02,070 --> 01:09:57,010 [Music] 1554 01:10:12,460 --> 01:10:02,080 foreign 1555 01:10:53,169 --> 01:10:26,570 [Music] 1556 01:10:53,179 --> 01:11:10,850 thank you 1557 01:11:27,729 --> 01:11:19,250 foreign 1558 01:11:27,739 --> 01:11:33,229 for you I hope you enjoyed it 1559 01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:34,189 um 1560 01:11:39,530 --> 01:11:37,440 you know I really do enjoy spending time 1561 01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,540 with you guys 1562 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:41,520 um I've been trying to put a little bit 1563 01:11:47,630 --> 01:11:46,080 more work into the history that I 1564 01:11:50,990 --> 01:11:47,640 present to you guys 1565 01:11:53,810 --> 01:11:51,000 so I hope you appreciate that or I hope 1566 01:11:54,530 --> 01:11:53,820 you enjoy it or get something out of it 1567 01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,540 um 1568 01:11:58,610 --> 01:11:56,880 I do like putting it together 1569 01:12:00,590 --> 01:11:58,620 um but I'm just trying to put in a 1570 01:12:03,410 --> 01:12:00,600 little more effort and hopefully have it 1571 01:12:07,250 --> 01:12:03,420 a little bit more uh organized a little 1572 01:12:09,709 --> 01:12:07,260 bit more to the point I hope you got 1573 01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:09,719 something from that stuff 1574 01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:15,410 ask your present and just let me know 1575 01:12:21,950 --> 01:12:17,760 reach out to me Deanna what's up thanks 1576 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,470 um 1577 01:12:27,709 --> 01:12:26,270 so yeah 1578 01:12:30,350 --> 01:12:27,719 thanks for hanging out hit that like 1579 01:12:31,790 --> 01:12:30,360 button subscribe oh yeah I saw this 1580 01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:31,800 question I wanted to respond to it I 1581 01:12:40,430 --> 01:12:38,820 forgot Lord bass do you believe in ce5 1582 01:12:43,010 --> 01:12:40,440 you know 1583 01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:47,330 I'll tell you what I believe in 1584 01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:51,290 I don't personally think 1585 01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:56,750 well you know I don't have any proof for 1586 01:13:00,050 --> 01:12:58,080 this or anything this is intuition 1587 01:13:04,189 --> 01:13:00,060 talking but I don't personally think 1588 01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:04,199 it's the ce5 or you know maybe even the 1589 01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:07,860 act of maybe it is but or the act of 1590 01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:12,000 meditation I feel like more so it's 1591 01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:13,199 um 1592 01:13:19,550 --> 01:13:16,560 intent an intention 1593 01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:19,560 and for those not familiar ce5 is uh you 1594 01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:21,960 know commonly known in the community for 1595 01:13:27,169 --> 01:13:24,719 a way to to contact uh non-human 1596 01:13:29,530 --> 01:13:27,179 intelligence through ways of maybe 1597 01:13:32,750 --> 01:13:29,540 astral projection some sort of um 1598 01:13:36,050 --> 01:13:32,760 meditation that puts you out in the 1599 01:13:38,570 --> 01:13:36,060 cosmos to contact whatever's out there 1600 01:13:44,270 --> 01:13:40,790 but also 1601 01:13:46,490 --> 01:13:44,280 I think there's an more Zone intent and 1602 01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:46,500 I think a lot of the times what the 1603 01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:49,560 meditation is or the ce5 is is it's more 1604 01:13:53,810 --> 01:13:51,600 of a 1605 01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:53,820 um kind of gets you in the right mind 1606 01:13:59,149 --> 01:13:56,159 space right it sets you up It prepares 1607 01:14:01,610 --> 01:13:59,159 you it gives you the intent 1608 01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:01,620 to have an experience but I think it's 1609 01:14:05,870 --> 01:14:04,080 the intent part and it's the meditation 1610 01:14:10,610 --> 01:14:05,880 and everything that really prepares and 1611 01:14:14,270 --> 01:14:10,620 builds up and makes real in you your 1612 01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:15,830 could be wrong 1613 01:14:19,729 --> 01:14:17,820 but it's just you know 1614 01:14:22,610 --> 01:14:19,739 um 1615 01:14:24,590 --> 01:14:22,620 just an opinion just an idea so 1616 01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:24,600 appreciate you wanted to get to that 1617 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,880 question you are here all the time lord 1618 01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:28,800 Bess and if you have a question I want 1619 01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:31,920 to answer it for sure 1620 01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:34,320 yeah and it's powerful with laser enlist 1621 01:14:39,050 --> 01:14:37,080 sure but I think it's intent right like 1622 01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,060 um if that's what your intent is and I 1623 01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,520 think meditation or ce5 is just another 1624 01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:43,040 way to really 1625 01:14:47,209 --> 01:14:44,880 cement 1626 01:14:49,550 --> 01:14:47,219 your intent 1627 01:14:51,470 --> 01:14:49,560 now in that room I'm gonna get out of 1628 01:14:53,810 --> 01:14:51,480 here thank you like the video subscribe 1629 01:14:56,209 --> 01:14:53,820 if you haven't got Ross coldheart this 1630 01:14:58,850 --> 01:14:56,219 week Jay is going to be back with me 1631 01:15:02,209 --> 01:14:58,860 interviewing that guy 1632 01:15:02,219 --> 01:15:09,229 I guess I'll see you soon peace 1633 01:15:15,770 --> 01:15:12,169 reported by reputable trained observers 1634 01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:15,780 the object was flying head on at us it 1635 01:15:19,890 --> 01:15:17,760 was 50 times the magnitude of the 1636 01:15:48,050 --> 01:15:19,900 brightest star